EA Mocking Battlefield V Genderfield Community Complaints at Games Launch Party - Sensationalist Headlines

I think that's my biggest complaint, the stories aren't nearly as interesting as the real deal. Like with the already states Mom/Daughter commando mission. It could've been far more interesting mechanically and story telling wise if you were part of the Norwegian team dropping and the first couple of levels weren't even fighting Nazies but fighting the weather. Waiting for reinforcements. Then you get them and find out as soon as you storm the place that the nazies have packed everything up already. Your mission was a failure and that pain you went through was for diddly dick. And you can apply it to the French campaign, where there's a small time jump after the final battle, losing friends and people you've known for life, only to get in some piss shit letter that you're not getting hold pension for fighting.

I'd need to be redpilled on anything to redpill you on something.

I also remember one day they just pulled all but like 3 of Battlefront 2's devs off to work on this and awhile before launch those devs finally got a choice and pretty much all of them went back to Star Wars

I have no idea why Swedish devs are trying so hard to represent and over-play very American cultural issues. It's actually pretty insane that Sweden has bought into the whole progressive movement. not only because Sweden already was way ahead of even the most progressive Americans that started this, but also because in their haste to regress on their own social progress on Women's issues and racism, they're blindly reacting and correcting for what is essentially America's rather different systemic racism and sexism related problems. They're literally trying to fix what remains of their own cultural ills with solutions to America's problems and it's just making them the subject of befuddlement and ridicule internationally. I cannot stress enough how insane it is to regress on social equality issues and try to pass it off as progress on the international forum. It's fucking NUTS!

It's a video game, you're reading into it a little bit too much.

I think DICE are being huge assholes about this whole thing but what I hate most is how they get to pussy out of including anything remotely interesting because "Hurr, if you're against this you just hate women, you alt-right fuck." Yeah, just do Britain vs Germany again for the billionth time and shoe-horn in women into roles they never had, entirely ignoring the social and political climate of the time, and having their praises sung because being progressive these days apparently means pretending the horrible shit from the past didn't happen. Want women in the game, fine. Why not focus on the many partisan forces who did have female fighters? How about a campaign featuring a female spy? How about anything which shows the actual struggles people had at the time and not supplanting them with modern concerns? The customisation they showed before they dialled it back was fucking awful. Partially because it looked ridiculous but mostly because it would make if damned near impossible to tell team mates from enemies at a glance. Per team customisation is fine though. Also the prosthetic arm was fucking stupid. Yes it existed at the time but if you got one you were sent the fuck home.

Most people don't care one way or another. Mass Effect always had character creation as a core part of the game but IIRC most played as the default male shepard.

My girlfriend pointed out that more games are including women as playable characters recently, so it's definitely something being noticed. I think it's because more games are open world (And therefore having protagonists that aren't critical to the story and are fluid) making a gender selector 0-effort, rather than direct effort from the developer community at large. To reiterate what I said about "false flags" earlier: I'm not saying that there aren't idiots who dislike BF:V because of women, I'm saying they're a minority at best, and a few people at worse, and EA is using them to cover up actual criticism toward the game.

I'm not, though. I'm saying these assholes are pretending and playing to their audience, while doing jack shit to actually improve the world for minorities. It's the same with the whole damn movement as it just stands in America. When transferred to Sweden, it's just a comical farce that does nothing but harm to an already superior social culture. Yes, this is a game. But the actions and words of those marketing it, developing it and covering it as some whole new moral leap forward isn't a goddamn game! It's hypocritical, self-masturbatory distraction from the real issues Minorities will still face in America and Sweden if these assholes somehow get their model society. They're not mitigating or removing racism, they're just including white people more on the receiving end, while changing abusive racism towards minorities to condescending appropriation of their very real hardships. American progressivism is as useless as American evangelism in delivering a better, brighter future for society and it has no place in games and it sure as shit has no real uses in Sweden as a society. I'm not reading into it a bit to much. I'm remembering that there is a larger context as to why these clowns are pretending to be helpful in the first place. I have no idea why half of the internet has trouble keeping track of broader contexts. Battlefield and DICE isn't living in some fucking bubble.

I live in one of the richest counties in the US, and also one of the most liberal/progressive. I see BLM signs and what not all the time, and everyone professes to care. We're 80% white, 2.8% black, and have some of the lowest numbers of affordable living in the state. People love to pretend they care.

Honestly, exactly this! Representation in games is awesome, but EA passing it off as the next logical step for the progress of western society is malicious at best. Especially when the path American progressives are taking only really leads to a different type of bigoted society. I really don't think America can ever shake racism from their cultural idenity. At least not when it keeps insisting on misunderstanding what other less troubled societies did to get there and keep misconstruing criticism of their efforts as bigotry. It's so fucking shallow and cheap.

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Battlefield_1942:_Secret_Weapons_of_WWII ??? this added in alien saucers and jetpacks. Really "respected" the time it was based off of well there /s This morning I tackled this myth once and for all. I have put together a list of all weapons, gadgets, and vehciles in Battlefield 1 and did a little research on each - primarily if it was used by one of the combatants in combat. The results may shock anyone not actually familiar with WW1. Battlefield 1 Weapons and Vehicles To quote from my more "conclusion" oriented sections. There are 59 distinct weapons in vanilla (not counting Pederson or Tanker/Pilot duplicates. Counting them brings it up to 66). 49 of those 59 were used (83%) 54 of the 66 would be 81%. The game now, with all expansions, has 90 distinct weapons (not counting Pederson or Tanker/Pilot duplicates. Counting them brings it up to 98). Out of those 90, 69 were used (76%). Counting the duplicates gives us 76 weapons that were used out of 98 total (78%). 3/90 (3%) did not exist in the war. Limpet Charges, M1911A1, and Mosin-Nagant M38 Carbine. Overall the weapons and accessories were generally widely used. All but two of the Vehicles were actually used (although only two of the Austro-Hungarian armored cars were used). The idea that they needed to "double down" on being "alternate history" is not based in any sort of fact. It's not alternate history. It's not even close. It's a fictional video game that uses World War One as its setting, and within that primarily uses the 100 Days Offensive, where the tactics I talked about here and weapons would have been used. It's a Master and Commander rather than a Guns of the South. And from what I've seen with BFV it's literally the same thing. https://i.imgur.com/Q9J2V2z.png This is from stuff I've done on the game's maps before. Long and short of it is that the game really is generally set in 1918, and when it's not, it's usually set in more mobile areas of operation - which fits with the small unit tactics that Battlefield gamifies. Trying to stick to actual proportions is extremely limiting artistically and creatively for a piece of fiction - which is what the battlefield games are. They are pieces of historical fiction that take real things and events and put a bit of their own flair on it to make an engaging and interesting game.

Except they're clearly not a minority. As goofball already demonstrated if you look for Battlefield V online you'll find that not only are those alt-right douchebags the most visible, but in terms of video views they're the highest ranking.

@IlluminatiRex Yeah, but I can be more lenient with that how it was an afterthought, though. To have a little fun with it in an expansion pack rather than embrace it right off the bat if that makes sense.

A minority of popular alt-right YouTubers that create reactionary videos for every topic possible and purposely market them to hide any political leanings they contain have views? Next you'll tell me the sun is going to come up tomorrow.

ok and nothing they've "embraced" in BFV or BF1 is is jetpacks and flying saucers, as I have just finished demonstrating.

Nothing you've chosen to demonstrate.

Yeah? I don't think something has to be jetpacks level of ridiculous to be written off as a bad idea. You show samurai words and amputees on the front line first hand you're setting a pretty different tone for the entire game lol.

???? did you not look at that google doc I linked? The one where I break down every weapon and vehicle in the game, whether it was issued and used or not, and whether it was present in the vanilla game or not and then statistically showed what percentage of the vehicles and weapons were actually used in the war???

I saw the entire doc.

The Japanese frequently used their swords, and as has been shown in this thread before Virginia Hall is clearly the inspiration behind the amputee. She was an SOE and later OSS agent who worked behind German lines, and only had one leg. Undertook rescues, organized and commanded acts of sabotage, and would have gone into Austria had the war not ended when it did.

Except, again, Mad Jack Churchill, Virginia Hall, and literally every IJA officer were all real people, unlike the literal jetpack that was in BF1942 which is very much fictional. https://i.redd.it/ec9gjzte8wpy.jpg

Yes, the Japanese used their swords. Not the British. From what I read, Virginia Hall was an OSS spy and that's not the same as fighting on the frontlines. She mapped drop zones and helped train resistance fighters but that's not frontline soldiering. Not to say it's not impressive or worthy of praise though.

SOE and OSS agents frequently got into firefights with the Germans. In fact, female SOE and OSS agents got into firefights with the Germans. you also said "show samurai swords being used on the frontlines", you don't get to change the goalposts like that lmao. And yes, the British did sometimes use swords too! Famously Jack Churchill.

SOE and OSS agents frequently got into firefights yes, but did an amputee frequently get into firefights with the Germans? Yes, there was that case of Jack Churchill, and it's fantastic, but it was not widespread nor was it Japanese swords. I dare say my point about it on the frontlines still stands.

https://sabotagetimes.com/.image/t_share/MTI5NjY2ODk4MjI3OTI3NTE4/jack_churchill_leading_training_charge_with_swordjpg.jpg Pictured here: LT-C John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming Churchill conducting a training exercise in which he disembarked and charged from an assault boat wielding his personal sword, a Scottish broadsword with a basket hilt. He was known for having that sword on him at all times of the war and famously stating that "any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed." In the invasion of Sicily he lead a commando unit from the front armed with his sword and a longbow, occasionally playing the bagpipes whilst in combat. He holds the distinction of the only confirmed kill with a longbow in the entire war.

You're doing it for me.

I re-iterate. I know of the occasion and that's great but that's not a Japanese sword nor a widespread thing lol.

As for the sword in the initial trailer looking more like a katana than a broadsword, that could very easily just be due to them not having the assets finished in time for the trailer. In Battlefield 1's trailers numerous placeholder or incomplete assets were often shown, such as Italian soldiers having a very crude model of Carcano carbine that would not be finished until the Turning Tides DLC which was more than a year after said trailer, or the German soldiers having drum magazines on their Mondragon rifles which were dropped for balance reasons from the final game.

Why don't you pony up with some actual sources, and actually look at the source material instead of making retarded snipes. Or do you not have any actual sources? So you move from "show me it being used" to "show me MORE of it being used". And from what I've gathered Virginia herself was involved in some scraps. As I've already stated, it's a piece of historical fiction that is inspired by real events and people, but is not beholden to have to be 100% statisitically the same as the real thing because it is fiction and liberties will be taken for game-play reasons.