• Rumors: AMD Zen 2 is gonna be fucking insane - 16C/32T @ 5.1 GHz for $499
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https://youtu.be/PCdsTBsH-rI https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-specs-prices-leaked-upto-16-cores-5-1ghz-on-am4/ Do take with salt, however AMD themselves have mentioned 2x throughput and doubled core density on 7nm: https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-2-7nm-cpu-architecture-epyc-rome-and-ryzen-official/ It might be time for me to buy some stock.
Holy balls.
Those prices are insane
@ the title If they do that, I will cum
Not the greatest fan of the Epyc name, but damnit if this doesn't make me hard
Just for reference, that's what a first-gen Threadripper could go up to at max last year, and was considered a huge kick in Intel's teeth at the time. If this is true and Ryzen 9 is actually available on the mainline AM4 socket (eliminating the need for a HEDT board for TR4), then AMD's closing the gap even faster than I anticipated. This is only two cores less than the i9 9980XE and matches the i9 9960X, the very next one down. And isn't even a third of the price of the latter. All while trouncing both their base and boost clocks. This almost sounds too good to be true, but at the same time I kinda believe it - especially considering Zen 2 is on 7nm.
Holy shit, if these are true, I'm grabbing a R7 ASAP, I'll fuckin camp out online to make sure I can beat the bots to grab one
I'm really hoping Ryzen 4000 will remain on AM4 because if so I'll probably get the 4600X when it comes out. These improvements are nuts.
You guys are laughing about the jump from Ryzen 1 to 3 but I'm still here on Skylake.. Comparing the R5 3600 to the i5-6500, there is: twice the cores FOUR TIMES the threads PCIe 4.0 DDR4-3200 native speed Spectre mitigations in silicon double the L3 cache of Zen 1 And to think if Intel was actually trying from 2009-2015 they'd have gotten somewhere. This is insane.
Also, those supposedly low-end chips are impressive too. Everything in that lineup is multi-threaded (and since it's Ryzen, guaranteed to be unlocked), and even Ryzen 3 has been upped to six cores. That's twelve threads on a $99 chip. Ryzen 7's also stated to be upped to 12c/24t and starts at $300 - for comparison, Intel's flagship chip from two years ago (i7 6950X) was only 10c/20t and cost over $1700, and even now their current 12c/24t chip (i9 9920X) is nearly $1200. Seems like they're doing this in pretty logical increments, too. 4c/8t is phased out - R3 takes the role of 6c/12t from today's higher R5 chips, R5 in turn takes the currently R7-only 8c/16t spot, R7 moves up to exclusively 12c/24t, and R9 at 16c/32t. The way that R7 and R9 apparently pull this off is that they'll have two dies on the chip like a mini-Threadripper/EPYC; R3 and R5 only use one active die like today's chips, but are stated to be getting variants in the second half of 2019 that put an integrated Navi GPU in that second die slot to make up for it? Sounds like they'll be great options for budget gaming machines if true. Again, if this is what Ryzen 3000 ends up being, it'll be an utterly excellent ecosystem with great value at every tier. I thoroughly hope this turns out to be the case, but at the same time - like, wow, that really does seem too good to be true, come to think of it.
Yeah, I'm in the "this is too good to be true" camp. It's just too much better in too many different ways. More cores, and way higher clocks, and some price cuts. I also find the timing a bit suspect - how is there a convenient chart of every processor in the Zen 2 line, including announcement schedule and estimated overclocks, already? We've not even had every Zen+ chip announced yet, and half the announced ones haven't been released. I can't outright dismiss it as fake but unless more info comes out, I'd bet against it. Call it 3:1 odds it's actually accurate. If it is true though? Looks like I might be upgrading from Zen 1 earlier than expected.
Intel hasn't tried since the switch to DDR4, Devils Canyon was just the full switch over to finally clocking the base and turbo clocks far closer to the silicon limits compared to like Westmere, Nehalem and Sandy Bridge where you could like double the clock speeds of the base clock. It's a real shame they wasted the FX name on piles of garbage like the FX-4300. The Athlon 64 FX's were real top end powerhouses and Ryzen 9 being called Ryzen FX would have been a proper product worthy of the FX moniker.
To be honest? If this were true, I'd actually be comfortable with them Introducing a Ryzen 1 tier. Because even 6c/12t - the lowest tier in this lineup - is friggin' overkill for many casual users. If they were to keep around the 4c/8t tier at - like - 3.0GHz and a super-low TDP for around $50-$70, it would sell like hotcakes - especially as the core of OEM pre-builts. Throw in a low-end Navi iGPU or even a Vega one for good measure and you'd have a very compelling ultra-budget chip for a HTPC or something you get for your kids/parents. Hell, it'd probably still put my current Phenom II to shame.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/716/80937e2a-5e98-444c-bd09-3c81696eb0cb/image.png
I swear I should just self-impose a 6 month hold on tech news after I build a new computer.
Heh, and I was already holding out for Ryzen 3000 before buying a chip. All the more reason to if they're anywhere close to this good. I could settle for even just a R5 here, as I'd been eyeing up the 2700X for some time.
I have an i5-7400 in my PC. Combined with my GTX 1060, it can literally run anything short of the recent open world Ass Creeds at 60 frames per second on medium to high graphic without breaking a sweat.. (And the only reason Ass Creed doesn't run well is because it's intentionally optimized for AMD CPUs. It's like the bullshit with Batman: Arkham City at release stuttering like hell on AMD cards for no good reason, except in reverse.)
Sounds too good to be true, but they going from 12nm to 7nm.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/223311/a795b206-c07f-4a23-8afd-0028932d7f61/intelbtfo7.jpg https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/223311/a18cbe5c-eb7e-407c-86cb-9c66e08bf5b9/intelbtfo5.png INTEL ANNIHILATED. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/223311/2822327f-2328-47b3-85a1-49aba9a74c25/intelbtfo3.jpg
AMD caught Intel with their pants down when Ryzen came out. If this news is true, AMD is now stealing Intel's pants off their legs and running off with them.
Fuck that, they've left the pants and stole Intel's legs.
Do we have any sort of release window for the possible beast?
AMD is holding a press event at Computex (for the first time ever). It’s May 28, 2019. A lot can happen between now and then.
I can do you one better and tell you they are also going to be speaking at CES Wednesday, January 9th, 9:00 – 10:00 AM
For example not being able to reach these clocks... colour be sceptical. Ryzen isn’t exactly an overclocking beast, and while a manufacturing node can increase that, that also doesn’t suddenly make your 16-core parts clock better than your octocores (and the jump also seems too large). One can hope, though.
That game runs a lot better on intel processors, the i3 8100 runs it at higher framerates than the 2700x.
This is the dilemma. We still have so many single threaded apps still getting pumped out such that anything beyond maybe an octa-core is hard to recommend besides professional or multithreaded workloads. Granted it may get easier for games considering Xbox One is a similar multi core machine.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/205123/45c03313-8cc5-4190-b2f5-a3db6c6a02c7/image.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/205123/1761e953-609b-4a4f-9704-689d8344af1c/image.png Twice the cores and a 7% increase in base clock. But only a 45% increase in TDP. That doesn't seem right.
You will have them, it's just that AMD will call these chips Athlons and Semprons ;)
I'm just going to go ahead and call bullshit now. We all wish it were true, but there's no way
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