French MPs vote to ban physical abuse of children. - Sensationalist Headlines

That logic didn't work on my dad, whenever ge did it the only thing he got back was a harder strike or threatened with something capable of causing injury. I'm not talking about a baby taps but there are better ways to correct children than slapping them around.

Got screamed at, punched, thrown into the wall, and chokeholded by my dad when I was real little, like between the ages of 5 and 9. The nightmarish memories are still fresh in my head over a decade later. The worst part is I'm still forced to live with him and pretend I like him and everything is a-ok because my mom never believed me and even then the one thing she was there for she didn't hold against him because I was "in the wrong" or some bullshit. Please, if you're gonna have kids, treat them right. Even if they do come out "fine," memories of physical abuse don't just go away.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx Spanking doesnt work

I'm sorry for what happened to you. However, I think that it is comparable, but actual abuse is much worse. It forms a spectrum of violence. Very minor violence is still violence, and violence is wrong. Violence is especially wrong against small, defenseless and impressionable children. It's honestly more justifiable (but still wrong) to spank one of your friends for say, pissing on your rug, than it is to spank/smack a small child who hasn't fully learned how to behave yet. Children should not be regarded as their parents' property.

In regards of physical punishment, growing up in Asia pretty much means that a cane to the buttcheeks is almost an everyday affair in schools. Although I say that I eventually grew jaded of it (I took upwards of ~10 strokes per day back in school cause I was a lazy bum), there is a stark difference in 'physical abuse' versus 'pain as a consequence'. Lining up to be caned after a bit of talking, versus trashing the entire room and causing bruises across limbs, produce very different experiences. I do not have the expertise to discuss whether it is morally right to let any harm come to a child, but I won't deny that it yields immediate short-term results. To be honest, it doesn't fucking work as disciplinary action. It suppresses through fear and pain and only eventually breed contempt. If more Asians would open up and get better at expressing emotions, it wouldn't be necessary here. As it stands, the east has more pressing social matters. /2cents

Except you said that caning was a daily occurrence for you, so it evidently doesn't.

I was caned for many different things, and yes I do immediately behave afterwards, and minimized offending the same authority for a while, it just doesn't last. It took me many years to stop caring. On the other hand, my brother was physically abused once and the effect lasted years. It wasn't a pretty sight.

Cept if they do something wrong and know it was wrong you then you're fucked if you cannot physically discipline them.

Why do you think physical discipline is your only option in that kind of situation? There's many other forms of discipline that are much less traumatic than causing physical harm. Most of these alternatives simply require more patience compared to the lazy way of parenting (e.g. physical discipline). It's much easier to simply assault your child than to take the time to explain things to them because fuck simple communication right? Violence doesn't work (as SleepyAl mentioned). It may stop the immediate misbehaviour because of making the child terrified of their own parent, but the child doesn't learn anything from it, or rather the child doesn't learn anything good from it. They're just bound to repeat the same mistakes and it's made even worse if the parent doubles down on their form of discipline and then the violence continues to escalate. There's no good ending to this. My parents "physically disciplined" me and what did it do for me? I became anti-social and had no friends until grade 7, and even then that was because someone else was trying to be friends with me, not the other way around. Many recesses were spent walking back and forth across the field simply doing nothing, the amount of loneliness I felt was unimaginable. I became aggressive/violent towards other kids because my parents taught me that that kind of behaviour was acceptable. I could go on and on about how fucked up I am now because of my parent's use of "physical discipline" but I'd rather not because it's exhausting...