• PewDiePie gives shout out to hateful, anti-Semitic YouTube channel
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You're simply grasping at straws If you think that one out of hundreds of shout-outs that PewDiePie does regularly will lead a person to become part of the alt-right. I'd see your point if he was doing this constantly AND deliberately, but he isn't. You're holding PewDiePie up to an insane standard. It's a shout-out for Christ's sake...
Are you unable to read? By recommending someone that will seed your content with alt-right media, he has pandered the opinions to his audience but thinks he's being clever doing so. It's like if I offhandedly recommended you check out The Fall of California, and then wow whoa what the fuck is that in my autoplay??? https://file.house/rM9f.png Also, christ, looks like youtube just rolled out a new UI design.
What the fuck is the point of this post? I can't use a word because the alt-right loves using it? I don't know if you've been living under a rock, but EVERYTHING is being politically scrutinized these days. I don't have to be alt-right (I'm actually not fyi) to sense that.
So if I shout-out a bunch of legit good channels, build up a reputation for shouting out good channels, then all the sudden shout out a channel that will get the algo to feed you alt-right content, I'm not suspect?
No, this is just your theory. This isn't fact. You don't know that and there's no sense in repeating that.
If you're repeating alt-right buzzwords, you're spreading their message. If someone didn't know what you meant by "outrage culture", and decided to google it, they'd get those results, and subsequently get their feed turned into alt-right shit. What part of this do you not grasp? The target audience for this shit is idiots and easily manipulated children. Because you're a big brained real human being, obviously you see it as alt-right garbage, but there's a shockingly large amount of people who don't. I know a lot of people with kids who have been noticing this shit among the youth, and I've seen some really fucking stupid reshares from a nephew of mine that was sharing some facebook post about how "trans people are invading our bathrooms" because he was sharing everything from the page. I look at the page history and it went from memes, to alt-right themed memes, to full on "OWN THE LIBTARDS #TRUMP".
I don't have anything to add to this, but is that asian guy's name seriously "Steve Oh"?
Holy shit, how much more evidence do you need? I'll go get you some studies. In the mean time, here's a transcript from NPR where they go into detail on this. Critics Say YouTube Hasn't Done Enough To Crack Down On Extremis..
So you're saying I'm "aiding and abetting" the alt-right by using a fucking term? How many straws are you holding right now? Jesus.
I was watching E;R before PDP suggested it. Eat your heart out outrage culture hahaah
There is no fucking evidence? The Youtube algorithm does a thing, that's all there fucking is to it. You can't say Pewdiepie is doing it deliberately, you have ZERO evidence for this.
Zero evidence, huh? How about multiple studies? How YouTube Drives People to the Internet’s Darkest Corners https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/opinion/sunday/youtube-politics-radical.html Check out part 4 of this study. https://datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alternative_Influence.pdf In specific, this section: Several critics have written about the role of the YouTube recommendation algorithm in this radicalization process. They have demonstrated how the algorithm can nudge viewers into accessing extremist content through recommended videos. In an oped for The New York Times, technology scholar Zeynep Tufekci called YouTube “The Great Radicalizer,” showcasing the ways the algorithm drove her to more and more extremist content during an experiment. Another article from an ex-YouTube employee argued a similar case, claiming that “fiction is outperforming reality” in large part because of the thumbnail video recommendations on the platform. While these articles identify a real problem, they treat radicalization as a fundamentally technical problem. What the section below showcases is that radicalization on YouTube is also a fundamentally social problem. Thus, even if YouTube altered or fully removed its content recommendation algorithms, the AIN would still provide a pathway for radicalization. This section cites the previously linked article from NYT, and this article from the Guardian: 'Fiction is outperforming reality'
Someone is only responsible for the content they produce. This "fucking liberals" content get views because it's funny and because it chooses some low hanging fruits easy to attack to get a sense of self-validation. Almost exactly like the Daily Show, Last Week Tonight, Late Show and so on that get views with "the nutty right wingers" and "the bad orange man". This sense of self-validation wouldn't be necessary if at every turn people weren't being laughed at just by having different ideals. Left wingers got so used to being the status quo that it's inconceivable that people think different. Besides, you can do worse than Ben Shapiro.
I tihnk you're just lacking reading comprehension. I'm saying there is no evidence of Pewdiepie deliberately linking to a channel with alt-right content to pander his own political views in a sneaky way. That's what you're posing, but anytime I tell you that this is bullshit you pull up evidence for the algorithm and how alt-right content spreads. I'm not refuting that. Read the bolded text and decide if you're still going to hang on to that point, because it's simply a ridiculous claim with zero proof. I repeat, zero proof of Pewdiepie doing this on purpose because he's alt-right.
Regarding this; https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/113321/34a78a94-5f9d-4176-8dd0-428d96718838/yikes.png Even if it's meant to be a joke in the first place it's still needless racialisation, why act surprised when people call you out for contextless racism?
So, did you like, not read the study I linked? Why don't you go read the study? It goes into detail on this specific tactic I'm accusing Pewdiepie of. Really, read the study. It'll take 30 minutes of your time at most.
It doesn't matter if I read the study or not (I might later), you're accusing someone of using a tactic with no proof. Simply because the tactic exists, doesn't mean you can apply it to every case. Which one is more likely? Honestly?: Pewdiepie recommends a channel based on a video he liked, without being completely aware of the channel's political allegiance. Pewdiepie sneakily recommends a channel to pander his secret alt-right views without attracting attention. Unless you prove me that Pewdiepie is using the tactic, there's no reason to assume number 2 is the more likely reason. It's ridiculous to assume the worst case, when everything looks like that's not the case. I'm not refuting your study, as I haven't read it yet. I'm aware that YouTube is an engine for radicalization, as are many other social platforms. But to assume that every action by a creator is mean-spirited is just being paranoid.
Ah, the ol' "they called as Nazis, so we had to because Nazis" line. Or more like the internet adage about people pretending to be idiots find themselves surrounded by actual idiots thinking they're in good company proved itself to be true.
Please do give it a read, it is effectively the other half of the story here. The key of this strategy is that it relies on that plausible deniability to avoid getting in trouble. I'd be more willing to believe he was just trying to recommend content if the following things hadn't occured before: 1. He JUST got done running a big campaign for subscribers, attention, and getting the spotlight on his channel. 2. He put the channel plug/shout-out in the video he made as a follow-up to the subscription boom. 3. The channel he recommended has anti-Semitic shit everywhere from "jokes" in the video description to using the ((())) "meme" shit in his channel About section. There's also the prior shit with them getting called a nazi that for whatever reason made the alt right sphere get super defensive about it, but that could be a coincidence. Slow reply because phone
The subscription campaign is a big meme to stay above the numbers of T-Series. The context of him recommending channels is to give them attention because he feels he doesn't deserve it, he goes in depth on how he feels the attention is too much for him in said video. Afaik, Pewdiepie was at some point aware of the alt-right in his fanbase and he denounced neo-nazi behavior at that time. That was long ago so I don't remember the specific video. I watch his content near daily and it doesn't have any alt-right or other right-wing tinges. All he does is discuss memes and the latest YouTube news. If I were to categorize his political stance (which is hard to do) I would say it's more centre than anything else. He doesn't really bring it up often since it's not relevant to his content.
What isn't alt-right propaganda to you?
you are paranoid and insane. it's time to log off
This. Cringy anti-sjw nerds promoting alt right memes and talking points """"ironically"""" sound the same as literal nazi's on youtube and then wonder why people think they're nazis. Like, it's not shit posting to just verbatim repeat the myth that Heather Hayer died from a heart attack. That's not a joke. There is nothing funny about that. PDP is a media personality with a large following of mostly children and the idea that hes somehow above researching something before he endorses it is laughable. Every time one of these dorks does something unfathomably stupid people rush to their defense like it's still 2008 and they're a small channel and lay off man. Well guess what, it shouldnt have been ok back then and it shouldn't be ok now. You cant be "just shitposting" when you have an audience of MILLIONS.
I don't get how the media is watching him like a hawk when they're just watching videos that he freely puts out on a Internet. They're just picking up fruit up off the ground, basically. Plenty of YouTube personalities put out daily videos and don't have this problem. I can't recall Casey Neistat doing anything like this. I don't know if pewdiepie is a racist dude but he keeps doing racist things. Maybe he's just an idiot.
No you misunderstand. He's not doing racist things - the media is blowing things out of proportion and misrepresenting things. He said the n-word once. That's the most racist thing he did.
I don't think PewDiePie is actually racist or a nazi but he is irresponsible and dumb as hell
He truly never learns isn't? He's the type of throwing the rock and quickly hide his hand. Even in the best of cases ( just shitposting alt-right memes for the lulz ), he should grow up once for all. When you are this famous you have the responsibility of taking care of each word before saying them as your influence is big, and the posture of "but is just shitposting, is not actually liking the alt-right" doesn't fly.
I mean yeah E;R cuts pretty close to the bone at times, but his videos are great entertainment.
"It's just edgy, ironic humor" says increasingly complacent man for the seventh time this year.
bro a 10 year old is gonna find these vids too boring to watch more than 10 seconds of
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