PewDiePie gives shout out to hateful, anti-Semitic YouTube channel - Sensationalist Headlines

That's not really an equivalent, because E;R's videos implement the aforementioned tactics that can make the consumer fall for far right conspiracies. Paintings aren't really a medium you can do that with.

Pewdiepie went from 0 influence to having more subscribers than there are people in certain countries seemingly without a single ethics course in between. It's like going from baby to adult and still hitting people with all your strength and putting things found under the sofa in your mouth, he's just not qualified for his position.

So you think there should be some sort of ethics course or license for people who have influence, or at least can communicate, with a certain amount of people?

Are you arguing for government-mandated "ethics courses" that demand people of influence say the right things or they don't get to speak publicly?

more likely training and/or counseling by PR companies and such

If we're talking about being "qualified" for a position when that position is literally granted to him by an authority (YouTube in this instance), I think it's reasonable to start questioning what happens when someone doesn't meet the "qualifications" that are apparently so obvious.

If that painting had racist caricatures or Nazi propaganda in it, you might have a point.

Well no, the point is that the painting was made by Hitler. But the painting itself at least at first glance doesn't have any questionable material.

it has nothing questionable about it at first glance, or at a second, or third. it has nothing questionable about it at all, that's why it's missing the point

Wheras E;R is objectionable at even the most cursory glance.

I wouldn't really consider it a "granted" "Position". They never explicitly hired him and he merely came into fame through his fans. There's really no qualifications here. He just has the most fans and skrilla. You don't need to do special deeds to be famous. After all, just look at most celebrities. 'First glance' You mean the painting itself has questionable material with another glance?

i can't speak for 01271 so i don't know if they're saying ban pewdiepie, but i've seen people use 'qualified' as a descriptor of skill and not necessarily something recognized by an authority, google seems to confirm that, isn't it fair to give them the benefit of the doubt? could be they pop up and say "yeah pdp should be banned" and i'll look mighty silly, but if it's "pdp should've done some sort of PR training at this point in his career" i can't say i disagree

Well, no - I guess I wasn't being clear enough. Glance meaning more "that picture alone without the context of its creator and circumstances". There's nothing objectionable about that picture itself of course. And I'm saying I doubt there's anything particularly objectionable about the video that he recommended in the first place. I've watched through quite a bit of it on fast forward but I didn't see anything of (death) note. But if there is anything in that particular video, please let me know, because I for sure am not watching a 40 minute video just to see if someone is a nazi somehow or just making edgy jokes.

Didn't he complain about not being able to use the word "niglet" in the very video he linked?

I want someone to be unable to get 76 000 000 subscribers or not get the play button or not get featured or not get ad revenue or something unless they're actually held to some standard and accountable and they've been told what's right and wrong and how to handle the massive power they have. The power is super freaky and new too and we're never told in school that we need to act in a completely different way when we have an audience of millions. We can't count on society to fix this because armies of fans (a validation gang) will defend anything a creator does and even prevent personal growth. We all saw fans of Logan Paul defending filming a suicided person in a forest. I don't actually expect YT to take steps of this sort though because it would bring them a step closer to legally being an employer to those people which would make them lose big money. Yes esp. on Youtube. There's one for lawyers, insurance people, and it's now more important than ever to start talking about ethics of influence... It would be great if a lot of people talked about it and the effects of it and recognized it's important and then it trickled down into the idea of being responsible for what you do and the effects of it. Ideally it would eventually become a social thing and acting unethically would be as unpopular as turning off the like/dislike bar. Youtube is a capitalist enterprise that found a way to not pay its workers or call them employees or give them benefits. They created a system to make money and unleashed it on the world without much effort of trying to be responsible about it. There's a huge incentive to NOT be responsible about it too because if they actually tried to be responsible there's the potential that they would legally be obliged to treat video creators as employees. It's kind of like the relationship between Uber and its drivers who aren't employed by Uber and therefore can't get paid vacation, medical etc but produce all the labour to make Uber function. He's a person that works for youtube, does labour for them, without being officially on-paper employed by them and that's a bad thing YT is doing. On his side though, his set of qualifications for getting his power is that he made rape jokes and screamed at video games. The experience that made him famous is completely inadequate to his current position as a public speaker with an subscriber base of millions where if he says the wrong thing then he will ruin lives or kill people. If someone thinks that it's unfair that you can be making funny videos and suddenly be stuck with some course or training or whatever here's a thought experiment for why we should treat people who are influential differently: What happens if a person with an audience of 1 says to eat tide pods versus a person with an audience of 1 billion? What's likely to happen?

Damn. Trump... I mean pewdiepie is really finished this time!

E;R is a giant fuckin' shitposter jfc

Bet you feel silly because ^

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuTI53oW0AA4agg.jpg https://gab.ai/Gorilla456/posts/14455688 https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/159354/d341d3bb-916e-4bbe-8cbc-e4db199a0e88/Screen Shot 2018-12-13 at 9.20.13 PM.png https://gab.com/Gorilla456/posts/14647943 It's pretend humour and real antisemitism.

Wait, he has a gab account? Gab is literally the alt right facebook. Come on. Anyone defending him as not a nazi is either willfully ignorant or also a nazi.

yeah I've seen plenty of folks like this. They are real hardline antisemites, and use dumb memes to hide their politics. A when speaking with one another they're pretty fucking comfortable with it.

How attached do people have to be to their edgy 4chan "shitpost" humor that they keep falling this line over and over?

Cognitive Dissonance, mainly. They just opted to hold their existing beliefs instead of replacing it with the new conflicting ones.

Pewdiepie did nothing wrong.

I know people like this in real life, classmates at university even, and every time they start with this shit I get the sudden urge to leave the room. The worst thing is that they usually have absolutely zero self-awareness and are a complete embarrassment to everyone associated with them. I've seen this pattern of behavior so often that I instinctively assume that whenever someone jokes about SJWs, Feminism, Jews, Nazis, posts Pepes, calls people cuck, soyboy or autistic, that they are probably influenced by or in support of the extreme right. More often than not, this assumption turns out to be true.

You need to just start straight up calling them a nazi and telling them to stop parroting nazi and white supremacist views or get the fuck out of your life.

Except they're not even remotely like employees. Youtube content creators aren't managed by youtube, they're totally independent, youtube just offers a distribution system. It's like how indie devs who publish their games on steam aren't employees of steam.

i think people shouldn’t be shitty to each other. This is includes unreasonable and damaging assumptions of people shouldn’t be tossed around as loosely as you do. I honestly see much of how you are portraying people to mimic Mcarthyism

The Alt Right only started to fall in part in droves after they openly admitted they were white supremacists and then suddenly their members were leaving left and right because their family and friends were abandoning them and they were losing their jobs. If you know people who actively purport and support shit like (((them))) and shite you could drop them and call them what they are. This isn't being mean, this calling someone wensday they are.

It has been been proven multiple times in this thread that E;R is an anti-Semitic asshole, alt right, and a neo nazi as a result. Get your fucking cognitive dissonance sorted out and quit ignoring reality.