That's great news. Now developers will have more options and be able to get paid more. Good to see more competition in this space, especially after Epic announcing their store. I'm already running discord all the time anyways.
Discord already had a store, they just increased the revenue for developers
I think this is the death of Indie games on Steam. Why give Valve 30% when everyone else wants 10%?
why go for 90 when you can go for 100?
If you can, power to ya. That's what EA and Bethesda are doing
Costs of running your own store, maintaining it, etc. might end up costing more than 10% for a few games.
Eh, moreso developers than consumers. But there aren't a ton of downsides for consumers anyway apart from having to sign up and install multiple game services.
Itch.io already offers 10%, the reason you haven't seen developers flock over there is because their store makes Steam look like an expertly curated wonderland by comparison. If Discord is letting anyone and everyone self-publish, it'll be the same before long.
Well i'm glad that there's no restriction to uploading projects to itch.io
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And still not a single word on if they're going to support their game store in Linux, though it sounds like their steadfast silence is pointing strongly towards a "no".
I'm out of the loop, how much data do they collect on people compared to steam?
I wish the discord store would split from the social aspect. I don't want the bloat.
Epic's store is heavily anti-consumer though ontop of throwing money at devs to get ludicrously long exclusive contracts.
Tbh the exclusivity deals are bullshit. It's just going to make the market more confusing.
Exclusivity deals are what ruined Sony for me this console generation. Don't follow the same suit as Epic, discord.. coughAshencough
Well, discord already had 90 day exclusives.
Epic starts of with whooping 12 month exclusivity.
jesus fuck how can anyone praise anticonsumerist behavior
this is how price fixing starts, how platform control starts, etc. all the problems people had with Steam -- nothing stops these platforms from doing the same if they assume a dominant position
It's a free market, at least it is becoming one now
It's good to see these competing with eachother, hope GOG also does something radical to attract devs
No it isn't, its literally the opposite of a freemarket. Its actively anticonsumer.
If it's harming the market, now that we have proper competition, another store will 1up them, both in deals in regards to attracting users, and also to attracting developers, like Steam always used to do when it was the underdog.
First of all, who said anything about consoles? Second of all, they literally aren't competing, exclusivity is not how competition works. Origin and Battle.Net don't compete because they do not sell literally any of the same products. You cannot go to Battle.net and buy Sims 4 or Titanfall 2 there. Origin will never have a better deal on Overwatch than Battle.net because it literally does not sell it at all. If you want to buy Overwatch you have to do it on Activision-Blizzard's terms because its not on another platform. That is actively anti-consumer, not a freemarket, and not competition.
I wish we had something like MoviesAnywhere for games.
Discord is free to use and lets people make as many servers as they want, with nearly everyone using it now instead of things like Skype or Teamspeak/Vent/Mumble. They have to be making money somehow, and Nitro isn't going to cut it, so how else do they keep the service free?
So begins the observable fall of Valve's Empire.
Like it or not, this all derives from one issue. Publishers and developers of all walks want more money, and Valve and other marketplaces refuse to budge.
As such, big publishers are jumping ship from Steam like EA did several years back. Epic and Discord saw this opportunity staring them in the face, and I don't blame them for taking advantage of it especially when they both have such large install bases.
All Valve needs to do to win this out is to offer a cut that others couldn't possibly hope to match. If they do, everyone drops notions of the Epic Store or Discord Store, and big publishers might even come back because having their games on Steam means more sales. Essentially, everything goes back to like it once was, except everyone gets what they want.
Competition is good in the sense that it gives a reason for those who are stagnant sitting on their ass to actually improve. It's why Intel finally somewhat got off it's lazy ass after AMD came swinging in with Ryzen.
The real question is if Valve will concede and make an example, or being the stubborn oafs that they are who love money more than anyone else in the industry, just continue to sit on their ass and do nothing. After all, there are people vehemently defending Valve and Steam right now, saying Steam should be the ONLY way to obtain games on PC. Some of these people were even damning Steam before for the same reasons and moreso, but are now quick to jump to their defense.
I love Steam, and I want Valve to continue improving Steam for all parties involved, but they simply have no incentive to when there's nobody challenging them and most people will just deal with Steam anyway because "it's the only option."
reduce the cut, then actually start making good games again to get profit
I very much doubt that, given a significant amount of users are still using steam and will continue to use steam.
You'd have to have a mass exodus of game developers to other platforms to dent steams user base.
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