• Fallout 76 players believe the Atom shop prices are getting out of hand
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Is Fallout 76 the Mass Effect: Andromeda of Fallout? In that it singlehandedly killed the franchise.
Harbor Freight does the same thing in their flyers. "Check out this Chinesium generator! Only $500! You save $1200!*" *Compared to an equivalent Honda generator
Honestly it's pretty sad how quickly we went from $2.50 cosmetics being ridiculed in 2006, to microtransactions being an industry standard half a decade later, to the loot boxes and ~£15 cosmetic packs of today.
Nowadays people would bounce on Bethesda's dick for giving them horse armor for such a fair, generous price.
Even if Fallout 76 was free, this Atom Shop prices are pretty high.
They're more like "macro transactions" than "micro transactions". $15 for ONE cosmetic item? Fuck off.
Christ I know it's really cool to pick on bethesda (and not wholly undeserved) but like... dont buy them. The mega sign is neat but do you really want to dump money on some dumb virtual knickknack that's only really usefull 1 month a year?
Nah, 76 is just a spin off. Fallout 3 and 4 were both very light RPGs with bad stories and Fallout grew with both of them, I doubt this will hurt Fallout 5 too much. It will hurt, of course, but I think many people have short memories when it comes to this kind of thing. Andromeda was a reboot that was managed incredibly poorly and basically sent out to die.
The problem is that they're really expensive and they're limited time items. Fallout 76 gives you a fair amount of Atoms just for playing the game, but not enough to buy every limited time item, and the atom shop is flashy. There are always going to be people who feel like they have to own everything in a game, and with a time limit on being able to get a thing preventing them from grinding out atoms, they're going to be willing to shell out their money or other peoples' money to get the exclusive thing.
If for some reason you feel the need to dump your collage tuition on Fallout 76 then I don't think the problem is Fallout 76, I think the problem is you. Bagging (heh heh) on bethesda for the bags was well deserved, this is just nothing.
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I certainly agree there, if you would fall for a marketing gimmick like this, you should definitely seek psychological help. But it doesn't paint Bethesda in a good PR light that they're going all in on these sorts of manipulative techniques on a not free-to-play game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onE8utryxE8
They'd still get the flak if it was free to play. You know that F76 was going to have lootboxes until some smart and brave lad said that it would be a step too far? There are legit things to bash the game about (the bag scandle, loads of bugs and I dont say that lightly) however "it has a cosmetic shop with dumb limited time items" really shoulden't be one of them. Oh yeah, given the choice, I'd take the Witcher 3 expansion. I don't even own/play Witcher.
God, that made me just realize: we know fucking nothing about what Doom Eternal multiplayer is going to be like, other than that it's supposedly going to be built in-house instead of contract. You're absolutely right that this is going to be the case. And they'll patch the loot box store in after launch, just like all the companies are doing today. And I bet all the fucking post-launch content is going to be multiplayer focused once again, given that it will make far more money than a single player expansion ever could. Fuck.
I think it's perfectly fair to criticize Beth for adding in the atom shop. They're obviously trying to get in on that money making scheme like everyone else, but have bungled it so hard by completely missing the point of these sort of micro-transactions. That being that 1. they're small, not huge, and 2. the items have to be worth it. Hardly anyone will visit your camp in Fo76. Hardly anyone will even notice any armour you're wearing in Fo76. If you're hanging out with other dudes in PA, they're definitely not going to care that you have a premium skin half-applied. The only thing I can think is half-worth it are the emotes and photo poses, the former I've heard terrible things about and the latter is a personal thing that no one else is really going to see. So the atom shop is both unfair and utterly worthless to players (haven't actually heard of anyone putting a single cent into that store) and a waste of time on Beth's behalf, because let's be real, without allowing players to pay for advantages, what item in a Bethbyro game are you possibly going to want to buy with real tactful money?
Are there actually any gaming news articles about 76 that AREN'T just someone posting reddit posts?
tbh I think the only people we can even get info about this game from are the diehard fans over at the subreddit, remember none of the journos are actually playing this one
reminder that the game will probably be completely unplayable once bethesda stops supporting it and all the money spent on the atom shop will be wasted.
Yay always online games! This what we've always wanted, praise the game publishers for finally listening to their customers <3 <3 <3
Personally, I expect Starfield to look and play like total ass in comparison to Outer Worlds, Cyberpunk 2077, Star Citizen's single-player, and pretty much any scifi-focused single-player RPG that's in unrevealed development right now (if any exist), because it's going to be hobbling along on the latest revision of Creation Engine aka Gamebryo aka NetImmerse aka an engine old enough to drink and vote. All of the games I mentioned could suck, but they'll all be on engines more modern than Starfield's so right off the bat they've all got an advantage Todd's baby doesn't.
Engine isnt the problem tbh. Even if fallout 4 was on a great engine it would still be a meh game.
It's hard to tell at this point that any of the games I mentioned will actually be objectively better than Starfield from a narrative standpoint, or characters, so there's no point in trying to claim that they'll be better that way. Though I'm guessing they will be by at least some level.
You had me until star citizen. 😂 's never getting released.
Creation Engine has potential to be stable only if management gives their programmers enough time to complete tasks and bugfix.
People still succesfully use ue4 aka ue3 aka ue2 aka unreal engine, aka an engine from 1998. People still use source aka goldsrc aka whichever id tech it was at the time when valve branched it off. For that matter people still use idtech itself, what is arguably the first 3d game engine (other than some earlier wireframe games and ultima). People still use windows 10 aka windows NT, an OS from the late 90's. If bethesda were to run their programming teams right and release a game with far fewer bugs, they could change nothing and just slap a new name on gamebryo again and none of the "omg ur engine is outdated" people would have any way of knowing.
It doesn't matter what Beth learns, it matters only what zenimax wants.
theyre going to be beth launcher exclusives? lol, bethesda really hates money
Bunch of money grabbing scumbags.
It's how Bethesda works, though.
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