Toblerone's halal certification outrages the far right - Sensationalist Headlines

Yes there is. People are absolutely within their legal rights to, but there is most certainly something wrong with boycotting a company just because it acknowledges a religion in a way that doesn't affect you at all. Feel free to @ me.

Your edit is objectively wrong.

This 100%. There have been so many fake stories on my Facebook feed that some of my less-than-intelligent friends post, usually about how some Muslims somewhere in Canada are trying to force <Tim Hortons/a local public school/whatever> to stop selling pork or something. The fake bullshit against islam needs to stop. Only when we stop going after people because they believe in a different non-existent man in the sky will we be able to truly grow as a society. And once religion is finally exterminated from this planet, we will truly be free. No more religious nuts telling women that they can't get an abortion (like excuse me but who the fuck gave them control over what women can and can't do with their bodies?). Like Jim Jefferies said, you'll never see someone on camera about to cut someone's head off, and hear them shout "IN THE NAME OF NOTHING!".

I don't know about the tolerant thing, in fact, I think it's the opposite. While I'm sure there are Muslims in the west who show a tolerance to women, homosexuals and free speech etc we are shown a large intolerance by many more Muslims that live here. It's hard to be practitioner that is tolerant about these things when it goes against your book. How many would openly accept homosexuals? How many will allow drawings of Mohammed? How many will support women not wearing the burqa? I would say some, but I think many more will be strictly opposed; as is their cultural family upbringing and teaching in the Quran (which let's be honest is not a very tolerant book). I also do not agree with this idea of funding Mosques with Halal certification, I'm strictly opposed to that. If my chocolate bar said 'buying this will fund religious institution' I would be less inclined to buy it other it simply being 'safe for your religion to eat' -- I think that's a HUGE difference. Finally I am opposed to your idea that radicalisation is the 'Anti-Islam' crowd. Islam was radicalised by it's own scriptures and preachers in the Arab world, by Islamic-fascists. It was radical way before the west showed any true dislike for the religion in the modern day. It wasn't until arguably 9/11 we began to see such a thing. Muslims are radicalised by their own people, while some moron in a Trump hat might help them feel persecuted the issue is much deeper. Grooming terrorist rings preaching the decay of the West and the glory of the East, the true prophet and how the West has corrupted their souls. I would argue the Islamophobic was always minor compared to the true influencing nature of problem in the Muslim community itself fighting against it's own violent traditions.

Wasn't PC culture already for retards?

Your fedora is turning into a black hole.

We aren't arguing about free will here, and perhaps I am reading too far into your post, but I will point out that in other instances where people stopped associating with something simply because of a religious affiliation https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109900/0d9a2a39-28c8-43be-b0d2-be1824bd72c8/image.png It wasn't for the best of reasons

I don't remember, but basically in order to receive a halal certificate, you have to pay some local Islamic institution to do the inspecting, which with things like these is relatively simple. What they do with the money is their thing tho. That's at least how I think it works here. Halal candy isn't a big deal - halal (and kosher) meat, on the other hand... Being bled out is a rather nasty way to be slaughtered

So, no source, ok.

Kosher food has a very similar process to halal certifications. A group of independent quality assurance members visit a factory or a production house for a fee, they certify the equipment and the techniques are in accordance with kosher/halal food rules, and call it a day. As for where that money actually goes, no one can source it. The groups themselves state it’s used to found new synagogues/mosques. It’s very normal and not really something I would worry about

Right, but where is the certification for Christians or jews or hindus? What if the product contained animal ingredients, Christians and Jews are not allowed to eat animal products sacrificed to another god. There are many confectionary items out there that do contain animal proteins.

Can product have both kosher and halal certifications and if so, does it make it "higher quality"?

Yes, it can, no, it doesn't. Kosher and Halal are actually quite similar on the whole, with the big differences being: Wine can be kosher, no alcohol can be halal. Gelatine made from pigs and cheese made using enzymes secreted from pigs can be kosher, no pig products can be halal. Kosher allows for batch slaughtering where the name of God is said over a whole group of animals at once, halal requires each individual animal to have the name of God said over it before it's slaughtered. So basically, if it's halal, it's almost definitely kosher too, if it's kosher, there's some circumstances where it may not be halal.

But Halal is NOT Kosher, you fail to mention that jews cannot consume Halal slaughtered animal product, neither can christians because it has been blessed to another god. Muslims can however eat kosher food, as long as it does not break halal, although again, it depends on how observant the muslim is, to the extent they may require further salting to draw blood. TLDR: Halal is not acceptable for consumption for jews/christians/hindus etc if it's halal slaughter of animal components /Halal/ slaughter is a sacrifice to their god and is blessed upon death. Kosher is /mostly/ acceptable to muslims

So no.

You know judging by your first post in this thread it's pretty clear you're only pretending to give a shit about this because you just hate Muslims.

I've never heard this before, source?

Don't make me bring out that video again...

For all the time you spend arguing in muslim-related threads, how come you get this bit wrong?

isn't halal just a meat thing? i hope the toblerone i have been eating all these years died humanely

It's been almost a week since I said this Not a single source has come from that direction (also he's pbanned fucking rip lol), strangely. Not even when @Vuu chimed in pointlessly.

All you have to do is to look up "halal certification procedure" and it will pop up. All we say is, to get halal certificate, you have to pay halal inspectors

The same as Kosher. The same things happen to money spent on being "Kosher". The same thing that happens when you give the christian church money. They spend it on themselves, and spreading their religion. You only care about this in the context of "Muslims". It's pretty blatant what this is to all who are on looking.

Basically halal is a certification that a product either contains meats slaughtered in a religiously acceptable manner for Muslims, or it just doesn't contain meat at all. Similar to Kosher a lot of meatless products get halal certified since all it requires they do is prove they don't have any meat and pay a little fee for the stamp.

I seem to recall you being quite an autist yourself in another thread and earning a ban for it, so you're not really in a position to talk, my dude.

Sir, we've finally pushed the Fedora Centrifuge to almost 110% efficiency

If you don't want people to throw around 'big-brain centrist' hate, maybe don't act like such a stereotype because holy shit, your posts just drip with it from every conceivable angle.

You are to centrists what Tudd is to right wingers. Stop pretending what your say is more intelligent than others on the virtue that it's coming out of your mouth.

Alright, so so far you said something monumentally stupid, I said something slightly less than monumentally stupid, and you responded by saying something even more monumentally stupid. But, as I said, what I did was less than monumentally stupid but that does mean it was somewhat stupid, because I realize I completely failed to address your original point so here I'm going to do so. Have you ever heard of a country called the People's Republic of China? It's a country where atheism is the state religion, and they have some very specific policies about what they do to people who don't follow the state religion. They will put people in gulags, send their children to reeducation camps where they will never see them again, forcibly sterilize them, abort ongoing pregnancies, and that's all if they're feeling nice and don't decide to just gun them down. I do not mean to suggest even for a second that atheists are inherently horrible people, that would be monumentally stupid, but it does demonstrate that atheists are not inherently incapable of committing atrocities; with or without gods, horrible people will find excuses to be horrible people.

So Muslims and Jewish People are vegetarians?