• Paedophile stripped of his British citizenship and facing deportation to India
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What about what happens with the government starts enacting death sentences for crimes you don't think deserve it?
Point me to a case of where the proof is %100 triple guaranteed yes sir and I will show you the winner of this years Darwin award.
I only believe the death penalty should be applied to child rapists.
That wasn't the fucking question
Okay then. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/two-year-old-youngest-to-give-evidence-matthew-carter-a8001741.html
actually in most places the legal process of executing someone costs much more than dozens of years spent by them in jail
The European Court of Human Rights is not a part of the EU, it is a separate entity established by the Council of Europe, which the UK is and will remain a part of regardless of their EU membership.
even then it has no effect on crime rates, nor does any scaling up of the penalties. What affects crimerates is the preception of the odds of being caught, no matter how slight the punishment. Which is why those oft ridiculed "Hotel prisons" from scandianvia actually work, but the US's rediculously dystopian prison system does not. If people think they're likely to be caught, even if the punishment is basically a cushy apartment, they're less likely to commit a crime. If they think they're not likely to get caught, even if you have death for jaywalkers, they're going to go break the law.
Well a lot of criminals are also often very impulsive, they don't really think very 'economically' you could say, about their actions. They don't think 'well I can steal x amount of euros and possibly get x amount of jail time, hmm I guess it's worth it then'. Anyway: upholding the principles on which many modern western countries were founded (which is to say: fair and equal treatment of suspects and also convicts, etc etc) is, imo, the far stronger response to a heinous crime.
tbh i consider life in prison way more cruel than the death penalty if i had committed a crime deserving of one or the other, i'd rather die than lose my freedom
Can you utterly guarantee that what the toddler said or the evidence they gave is %100 clear an unambiguous with absolutely %0 room for error? You might think my margins stringent but when it comes to life or death there is no room for error.
You can always commit suicide in prison, that works just fine and probably doesn't cost the state too much.
Uh, yeah. The defendant pleaded guilty before he was even arraigned. If you actually read the article you'd know that. How the fuck is there any margin for error here? Are you suggesting he was set up, or blackmailed?
Depends on the legal process, I'm pretty sure its cheaper to execute in more conservative countries since you probably have zero appeal and they don't drag your execution dates out
Precisely. The cost comes from keeping them on death row, not the actual procedure.
so you only want executions for people who are 100% guilty, but also don't like the mechanisms in place to make sure people who are executed are 100% guilty? ok lol
are you genuinely not able to understand that the cost comes from the due process? "keeping someone alive on death row" costs the exact same as in general prison population, the extra cost comes from the amount of court hearings required to prove guilt to a standard with which the state is willing to execute them to? note that the standard isn't actually stringent enough to not result in innocent people dying so you're looking at even more expense for a 100% watertight system where only the BAD MEN are killed
so due process is only a suggestion for you
I don't care what kind of crime you commit, a government should not have the right to end your life or inflict body harm on you. That's a very dangerous door to open.
It doesn't just affect your libido. It has a chance of reducing your sexual functioning and cause breast growth in men and demasculinization. Pretty much the same effects as getting your balls literally cut off
paedos get the rope sorry.
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