• Netflix begs fans not to undertake #Bird Box challenge as craze sweeps globe
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The fact the kids didn't have names, was one of the best pieces of writing done in the movie IMO. Malory doesn't want kids, she doesn't feel she'll be a good parent, she vocalizes as much in the early film. She sees herself as a lone wolf, and a child definitely is not part of that lifestyle. She doens't want a kid, but she's having one. She's not ready for motherhood, and then the events of the film happen, and she ends up mothering two children, one her own, and one not. She still doesn't want to have the kids at this point, she still doesn't trust herself enough to be a good mother to them and she fears that if she loves her kids as she's supposed to, she'll lose her own mind. She names them, or rather doesn't name them, for this very reason. The fear she has at losing the kids in this world drives her to not name the kids. It's a very nuanced piece of writing, but I know people who dislike it. I just think a lot of elements of this film are better than we're going to acknowledge because it's a popular phenomena, and it's not okay to say popular things are okay.
After seeing the movie I just assumed they had bought a viral marketing campaign because I saw a giant wave of memes and nobody talking about the movie itself. And then it was a kind of generic movie. Got me thinking: What's the point of having your netflix movie be popular? Do you get a paycheck based on views? Didn't you already get the money when the movie was made, so why would someone with their movie on netflix care it was a viral hit or not?
then the question becomes about where the line is drawn for "mentally ill enough to embrace the monsters". is it people with specific disorders or something? the movie doesn't care, it's just "those dangerous crazies who broke out of the mental hospital!" barring how disgusting it is for yet another horror movie to use mentally ill people for shock value nonsense, it's entirely arbitrary.
It's not fucking lazy, if you've watched both movies it's a perfectly valid comparison. Just because you can minimize other films to their basic components doesn't change the fact that Birdbox is a lazy, cheap, hacky film based on a premise and script written a decade before its time. It has the same exact nuance as the Shyamalan film and none of the creative flair or risk taking. Do you need me to sit here and list out the 1:1 comparisons between the films? Because if so, I'd sit here and basically write the entire script out for you. Birdbox is not clever. It's a re-hash of a film that was originally panned for how "out there" it was. Concept that the "monster" itself doesn't actually kill? Ripped directly from The Happening. Concept of isolation as a means to protect yourself? Ripped directly from The Happening. Major plot point revolving around arriving at a "safe location" only to discover it is not as safe as was thought? Ripped directly from The Happening. I mean Jesus, it's okay if you like it. It's not a bad film. But don't sit here and act like people can't have extremely valid criticisms, especially given the level of intellectual fraud that went into its creation.
The movie had a lot of chances to be good, but it always fell short for me. The monsters could have been fleshed out much better. All we got was ramble by one character that is dismissed by the others, and the drawings by the crazy spy guy. They had so much room to develop its lore, or show more of the what the crazies were doing, but none of that happened. When I saw the drawings I thought they would push the eldritch horror angle some more, but we got next to nothing. The rules were never clear. Why can't the monster go into a building but it can kill them by being seen through a window? Why does the drawings of the monsters do nothing but the sight of them does? Why do the monsters exist seemingly everywhere on earth, but not at the school for the deaf? The ending was dissatisfying and dissonant with the rest of the movie. The least they could have done is have some sort of explanation or wrap up, but instead it was just a feel-good scene based around the master-stoke of writing that is pointing out that blind people can't see. What about the people that can?
Hey dude? Your little tirade there about how "act like people can't have extremely valid criticisms" is based on nothing but your own misreading of my post. I'm not going to entertain any of your argument, because you really just went on a tirade over nothing. Calling something "X with y" is hacky criticism. I DID NOT SAY there was no criticism of this film. But wonderful job.
Ah, I actually missed the beginning of the movie since I walked in on someone else watching it pretty early on, so I must have missed that. (I walked in around the part where she and another woman get in a car crash and everyone starts killing themselves, I'm not sure how far in that is) I had thought it was a "I don't want them to think I'm a good mother so they won't miss me when I die to some monster" thing, not the other way around, woops. According to the author, he had thought up the rough draft before The Happening came out. Obviously take that with a grain of salt, though. Author Josh Malerman is more Stoker than Lovecraft "Isolation as a means to protect yourself" and "safe location isn't safe" are also present in literally every zombie movie ever. And something killing indirectly wasn't invented by The Happening either. There's plenty of works before The Happening that have creatures / things that cause people who view it to go insane, mainly the Cthulhu mythos, although Stephen King has a bit of it too. There's even things that cause people to kill themselves too, although more often it's been a sound / song than a visual cue. More importantly though, again, execution is much more important than concept. Creativeness of concept can get you far, but execution is still what matters. like look at the mortal engines movie, that concept is rad and creative as hell, but the execution was shit
that first video is straight up fake I'm sick of seeing bullshit "challenge" headlines fuelled exclusively by a few tweets
i don't see anything wrong with people seeing what it is like to be blind. as long as they don't hurt people.
I think you must be blind to have missed the point so blatantly
Blind people aren't blind by volition usually.
i dont have to see to understand but i hear u
You claim it's okay as long as they don't hurt anyone when there are videos of people running their kids into walls so you must have some kind of vision impairment to be this oblivious, or else you're desperate for some sort of moral high ground.
i didn't see the video of someone running into a wall. but that is plain dumbness. and yes i am desperate for moral high ground. i think the film does good to highlight blindness awareness.
I noticed this too, a lot of big social media accounts started promoting this movie, either through sub par memes, or by claiming its good. I ended up watching it as a result of being influenced and it was ok, I dont feel like I wasted my time watching it. Theres an irony in how a film about a somewhat viral condition which affects people visually, has gone viral irl, but I'm not good at wording things. Its like a self fulfilling prophecy. Except its not entirely self fulfilling because the only reason this film is talked about in the first place is because of all the advertisement for it.
I read the book a couple years ago, even met the Author and got his autograph on my copy, the only thing I wanted to do was figure out what the hell these people were seeing. But no we live in a generation where rather than going into philosophical discussions over what was causing so much devastation we think to ourselves "I can get across town blind folded no problem!". Thanks Netflix.
The book was a lot clearer as to how the creatures worked. The creatures weren't particularly evil, they just suddenly existed one day and people couldn't comprehend their form, so they minds would shut down and they would commit suicide. The creatures didn't particularly hunt humans, they just wandered around, but due to their nature it basically didn't matter because seeing them was enough to kill you. The creatures also don't "possess" people. It's that whoever looks at them goes insane and kills themselves, but when insane people look at the creatures they are not affected. Or maybe they are, but because they have experience "being insane" they don't feel the need to kill themselves.
The amount of bird box and black mirror ads that are masquerading as memes is kinda gross. I know the south park episode episodes about real life ads was mostly a joke but a lot more internet media than you think is an ad vs a genuine post by a real person. Just go to r/all at reddit and play spot the ad. It's a fun game. Like I understand the needs for ads, and ads that are marked as ads are fine by me unless they're intrusive, but posts made by random accounts sneakily throwing a logo in which is then artificially inflated to show up to more people via algorithms to make it appear as genuine content. https://www.reddit.com/r/happy/comments/ab238v/i_heard_her_gasp_then_she_turned_around_with/ Look at this shit. It makes me sick.
most of the internet, especially reddit, is astroturfed as fuck
Honestly from what I'm hearing the film sounds kind of offensive to those who suffer from severe mental disorders by turning them into violent killers. Like, how insane do you have to be for the monsters to change you? What does the film define as insane?
Bird box be like https://youtu.be/wjP-Vm2DEI8
The movie had an absolutely terrible structure that completely removed any tension for most of it. It wasn't a horrible movie but it wasn't good either. I don't understand why anyone would be impressed enough with it to try this "challenge".
I was passively watching it with the gf a week or so ago and I didn't recognize sandra bullocks character in the future and past scenes as being the same. Once I figured that out I'm just like what's the fucking point. What a waste of a John Malkovich casting and a waste of my fuckin time. Film students first movie tier.
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