• A toddler fell into a well in Spain; rescuers can't reach him, and his parents n
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https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/a-toddler-fell-into-a-well-in-spain-rescuers-cant-reach-him-and-his-parents-no-longer?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0gs2XLfEm5RBhVQQY0jydbHL-Nl8uBnnHmxXapeQ4PI7hgYsTwCbuB5rE Julen's parents, whose first son, Oliver, died of a reported congenital heart defect at the age of three, join a reluctant fraternity of families cast into the glare of an international spotlight after their children were trapped below ground. This fucking sucks
God thats depressing, Ihope they can get to him in time...
I know parents should always keep an eye on their children, especially when they're only two years-old, but it seems pretty fucked up that the hole was just left unplugged like that to begin with.
this is an irrational fear I've always had about these sort of holes. Like the super deep borehole in russia is legitimately scary that something that tiny and innocuous goes on for miles
thats so horrible.. such a small hole too
Holy fuck a 100m deep 38cm hole That's a literal nightmare right there
40 feet is nothing, I saw one in DC that was just a fucking ladder into this pit that went so far I couldn't even see where it went
In what universe does anyone believe that a kid can drop 100m and survive? The article reads like self-flagelation. A toddler dropping 100m and the first trace they find of him is at 75m. It's just so fucking grim and soul-crushing. But anyone telling anyone he might in any way be alive is just evil. Even if he got stuck, his rib-cage or hips would just have been destroyed by the grinding halt from such potential speed. Everything about this is just scary. Always thought about those chasms in the ice on Greenland and just how easily one could totally disappear.
I just watched "As Above, So Below" the other day and this is giving me flashbacks to it. Terrifying.
Moulins are legit terrifying and might as well be death incarnate. This child is long dead at this point. If there is a blockage in the hole at 75m there is zero chance this kid will be retreived alive unfortunately. Its tragic that this could happen. Whoever dug that hole should have filled it in or capped it with concrete or something.
Seconding this. In Missouri there are abandonded overgrown wells all over the place. A lot of hunting dogs have died or disappeared that way.
i was thinking this while reading the article, there's absolutely no chance the kid's still alive. and even if the kid somehow survived the impact, there's no way in hell he'll survive for much longer after the impact for the rescuers to recover him alive it couldn't have been a clean fall either, he was probably hitting and scraping against the walls of the hole for the entire drop. i think the idea of that scares me more than the idea of the impact itself
Toddlers are pretty resilient, the bumps and sides of the hole may have broken his fall to not be fatal. If he tripped feet first in the hole his head is probably facing the surface. What's more concerning to me is if on his way down he knocked enough dirt to fill the hole past his head at the bottom. Even then you are dealing with effects of low air, starvation, dehydration... he is probably lost. Two days is far too long to meticulously plan out a rescue for this. They would've had to start drilling the day of the rescue, and the only thing I can think of that would dig deep enough, fast enough are the drills for natural gas. Even then the holes are designed for gas extraction, not sending rescue equipment and retrieving someone.
there is no hope that the child is alive at the bottom of a borehole... it's probably just metres of fine dust/dirt down there if there is no liquid. such a horrible way to go man..
Well thats another fear to add to the list, just casual hard to see abyss pits
if the hole isn't that wide they probably had some friction against the walls and tumbled/slid down instead of free-falling slowly and 'safely' reaching the bottom in that situation is less gruesome, but immensely more dreadful and prolonged of a situation
Thankfully the Kola Borehole that you refer to has been welded shut, but I get what you mean. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%28%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%29%2C_%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82_2012.JPG/1920px-%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%28%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%29%2C_%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82_2012.JPG
It's not really that easy to miss. I don't know if everywhere else it's the same but, here whenever one of this well holes are created and not being used, the company that made it have to cover it up so nothing like this happens, unless the owner of the property where the hole is tells them otherwise, which seems to probably have been the case. Unless the people that made the well hole didn't follow the law or whatever, which can also be the case. Thing is, people may miss a hole like this with their sight, but in no way the owner of the property it is on didn't know about it.
I feel like this is blind hope-clinging. If at any point the chasm is 5mm wider than him somehow snuggly slow-sliding down there, he's accellerating to terminal velocity in no time. 10m with scraping her and there at any point in that tube is enough. The hole wasn't designed and drilled specifically to this toddler's measurements either. I don't mean to be an ass, but what are you thinking here? What is anyone arguing this thinking? The kid dropped and scraped 100m with or without "friction" means nothing when it wasn't sloped in the first place. First trace was 75 m down, not 2m down. Let's be real here. There was nothing slow and "safe" about that drop. It was quick and horrifying. Whoever drilled and didn't fill the hole should be held accountable!
Fuck me, that movie gave me claustrophobia.
I remember going camping in the forest nearby and there were signs everywhere saying to watch your step as abandoned, uncovered mineshafts were quite common
https://www.euronews.com/2019/01/15/huge-operation-underway-in-spain-to-find-child-lost-down-well-for-two-days Only hair so far
Probably really dead, could be the baby's hair coming off from his scalp.
There's absolutely zero way that a two year old survived a 30 story drop into water
Crazier shit has happened - the human body is bizarrely resilient to all sorts of shit for zero reason - but honestly given the amount of time it'd be nothing short of a miracle for the little guy to come up breathing. I hope it works out but the situation is more than grim.
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2019/01/15/drilling-expert-claims-its-almost-impossible-for-little-julen-to-have-fallen-down-malaga-well-as-builder-claims-he-sealed-up-hole-just-weeks-ago/ Quite funny that a "drilling expert" says something and the next day they find hair of the kid, some people really are idiots.
Well if there is any chance the kid isn't down there they should be looking elsewhere as well.
There's no evidence right now that say otherwise, just people speculating that the kid doesn't physically fit.
Jesus, this is real nightmare fuel for parents.
On Monday, officials lowered a small robot into the hole. It recovered a bag of candy and a plastic cup the boy had been holding when he fell, but it was not able to capture any videos or sounds of the missing child. That's just horrific.
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