Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
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Google engineers have proposed changes to the open-source Chromium browser that will break content-blocking extensions, including various ad blockers.
Adblock Plus will most likely not be affected, though similar third-party plugins will, for reasons we will explain. The drafted changes will also limit the capabilities available to extension developers, ostensibly for the sake of speed and safety. Chromium forms the central core of Google Chrome, and, soon, Microsoft Edge.
In a note posted Tuesday to the Chromium bug tracker, Raymond Hill, the developer behind uBlock Origin and uMatrix, said the changes contemplated by the Manifest v3 proposal will ruin his ad and content blocking extensions, and take control of content away from users.
If this (quite limited) declarativeNetRequest API ends up being the only way content blockers can accomplish their duty, this essentially means that two content blockers I have maintained for years, uBlock Origin ("uBO") and uMatrix, can no longer exist.
Beside causing uBO and uMatrix to no longer be able to exist, it's really concerning that the proposed declarativeNetRequest API will make it impossible to come up with new and novel filtering engine designs, as the declarativeNetRequest API is no more than the implementation of one specific filtering engine, and a rather limited one (the 30,000 limit is not sufficient to enforce the famous EasyList alone).
Firefox will rise like the phoenix.
I will just use Firefox then i guess.
Let's hope Firefox doesn't follow suit.
Looks like I made the right choice ditching Chrome for Firefox a month ago
Classic google. Fucking up shit for no good reason and just using the usual "safety/speed" response and the completely ignoring any sort of feedback.
Shit. I need to find another browser for porn so I can switch to Firefox.
And just after I decided to move back to Chrome...
Though given Chromium is an open source project, what's to stop someone like Opera or Vivaldi from just forking and dropping these changes?
Also, I guess depending on how it works for them, how will this affect Brave? Brave is just straight up Chrome with some features removed and an adblocker built in.
Oh. Great. In wonder if Chromium branches are all affected or not.
Well I already swaped to Firefox on mobile so I could use it there, guess I'll just do the same for desktop.
Fuck you google
I've been on Firefox before it was even called Firefox, and they've never let me down. I even replaced Safari with Firefox on my iPhone, it's a fantastic piece of software.
The tech industry is a lot like the railroads of the 19th century: revolutionary and wonderful, but also bursting with monopolistic greed. It's time for Google to be broken up - this isn't the first time they've used Chrome to bully their rivals.
And I'll swap from Google to Mozilla.
just switched to firefox
get dabbed, on google.
Glad I don't use Chrome anymore. They already tried shit like this before, with blocking it because it was "unsigned" at the time. (Though I may be remembering wrong, but an extension I used a lot was blocked)
Anyone who gives a shit about safety isn't doing business with Google
Google are classic virtue signallers. This was most evident with their claim to care about rights, while donating to a nazi in the south and breeding a boys club work culture.
I mean, is anyone surprised they'd do this? They already turned YouTube into an anarcho-capitalist hellhole, so I don't trust them to have any quality control over their other stuff.
ublock Origin is listed as a recommended addon or whatever so I doubt that.
Apparently Google in the past tried to block and get rid of the addon you linked. "Safety and security" eh? Totally not special interests, guys
Mozilla are probably one of the few somewhat commercial open-source foundations out there that really do mean what they say. There's been a few updates to Firefox historically that haven't gone down well with the community (making it look a bit more like Chrome back when it was the only browser with the tabs up top for example). But nothing quite as bad as this. Their biggest controversy in recent memory was a change to the addons API that broke a lot of things, but nothing that purposefully broke stuff that wasn't exploiting flaws in the old APIs in the first place.
It goes beyond just ad blocking though, they're trying to lock down user choice experience and force their own approved version. It would be a cold day in hell if this ever happened with FireFox.
I think the theory behind it is eventually everyone will be so used to just forking chromium that the industry will lose its knowledge of browser engines and be forced to suck the google chode.
I don't actually think it's gonna happen with chromium, but it does seem like a problem that's gonna hit the code industry eventually, everyone being told to just use the highest level/least knowledge path and then having a workforce that don't know how to build a foundation.
I would switch to Firefox, but Mozilla also aren't exactly bastions of hope either. They've made some decisions and forced things upon users (like that Mr. Robot extension they installed automatically as a marketing ploy on some installations without consent) that have had the privacy minded wary even of them. They've also been known to break or remove functionality regarding extensions under the same reasoning that Google gives (more security, etc etc).
Basically, I guess the browser landscape is fucked, and it's all about using the least evil of the evils.
There are forks of Firefox, sure, but most of them aren't even up to date and refuse to update to a certain point due to that update either changing the interface or breaking how previous extensions worked. I guess if there was a fork that was basically Quantum + XUL and wasn't run by some sort of corporation, I'd probably switch over to that.
Cool thanks for giving me a reason to ditch chrome.
Then I'll just get a pi hole set up. Don't need an ad blocking extension when you can have a network wide ad blocker.
Nice try Google but I use OpenWrt and block ads router-side.
Because google IS the ads.
Not like there's any conflict of interests there though...
I have both as it is nice being able to hide the element / placeholder areas that clutter the space.
Because google themselves run a lot of infrastructure for advertisements.
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