SonicFox, the gay, furry, esports player of 2018, sounds off and won’t stop
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It's a concept that you learn to notice and realize when you figure out how identity works in terms of society and culture.
Heteronormativity is basically the concept that society says guys have to act/dress/love one way and girls have to act/dress/love this way. It claims these things are normal and that anything else that occurs isn't. It claims Male and female are the only genders when trans/non-binary/queer choices exist. It claims guys like manly things while girls like girly things when there is feminine guys and masculine girls. etc.
A guy can't like feminine things, that's not normal. A girl can't love a girl, that's not normal either in a Heteronormative society.
This is basically pressured upon you whether you notice it or not. Direct ways would be a conservative telling a gay couple to not to express their love (handholding, for example) in public because it isn't the norm. A Indirect way would be the majority of action movies comprising of a big buff guy saving the day and getting the girl at the end. these things basically pressure your subconscious to act a certain way because you consider yourself part of that whether you actively think that or not.
So when someone directly attacks these norms by being themselves, the usual response from the majority/"normal" part of society is to reject and suppress rather than embrace or celebrate with them. "Don't wear that it makes you look gay" "You like <Artist>? What are you a girl?" "I wish they would stop expressing themselves like that." Instead people should be glad that someone embraced their identity and is proud to be happy about it. If you don't want to see someone be happy about their identity, then ignore it and move on with your life.
On the coin flip, Someone who also associates with these similar feelings can also see someone in a position of power/fame and as a result feel more accepted/liked in society. Someone seeing sonicfox personally accepting and hardcore embracing their identity on stage multiple times and constantly spouting about it will make them feel, well, normal. If you don't like sonicfox being proud to the point of wishing he would shut up about it, your essentially playing into the heteronormative culture of suppress and keeping the status quo.
This is the main reason we are seeing a push of more LGBT content in games/movies/tv/etc. By having these things introduced into society, we are essentially making it the new normal for people to be happy to express themselves, whether they are straight, gay, lesbian, trans etc. Let people be who they want. Let people express how they want. You can turn it off if you don't want to see it. Block sonicfox on twitter if it makes you that mad.
I'd rather people try to broaden their horizons and try/embrace new things, you might discover a few new cool things about yourself.
I am probably terrible at explaining, but this ted talk goes into it pretty well.
https://youtu.be/eosTHMwVhyk
I understand if people can't understand this concept at first and probably rate me dumb or something, even after i explained it. it took me a few attempts to comprehend it myself. I hope i at least put it in peoples heads to think about and look it up later to try to understand the concept at least.
wait what happened to sonicfox in dbfz? is it related to him playing soul calibur now?
It has nothing to do with him challenging the ~status quo~ or whatever nor do people fucking care if his sexuality is against the norm. People just find it annoying when someone is constantly shoving their sexuality into everything they can, because no one gives a shit (yes it's just as annoying when straight people do it).
That's literally all it is. People find it annoying when someone is trying to make something incredibly minor into something major. It's not going to improve anything or whatever, people okay with lgbt will either find it annoying or don't care, people who hate lgbt are still going to hate them.
Also fuck off with this only hets hate him garbage. I'm a homo and even I hate what he does.
This is why almost everyone on the internet hates you furries. The moment one person within your community get critised for anything, you all just jump straight to their defence no matter if they're truly deserving of said criticisms.
I'm gay, and you're embarrassing me. People don't have an issue with someone being gay, or being proud of being gay, and I'm not sure why that needs to be drilled into your head, but they have a problem with that sexuality being their only personality trait, and an obnoxious one at that. Equality doesn't mean you have to accept obnoxiousness, because I sure as hell don't, and I'm part of the fucking homosexual culture that you're pretending to be well-versed in. I can assure you, no one claps in awe when straight people boast about being straight and OOF ME LOVE TIDDIES AND SEX WITH WOMAN because, ! ! congratulations ! ! no one gives a fuck about your sexuality ! ! A sexuality is not a personality trait, and it never should be; is it part of your identity? Yes. But basing your entire personality on something like a sexuality very easily perpetuates existing stereotypes; I do not feel inspired, nor proud, when I see SonicFox promoting the gay stereotype that we're all desperately waiting for the next opportunity to remind people that we are, in fact, gay, just in case you forgot teehee. Heterosexuals do not have to keep reminding people that they are heterosexuals, and if you really want equality, that should be the same for homosexuals. But I have a feeling you don't want equality, but rather want to extend the period of 'being gay makes me special' for as long as it can be milked. You have also provided no evidence that heterosexuals do as you claim. Perhaps you are confusing heterosexuals openly discussing the sexual aspect of their life with them constantly boasting about sexuality - as someone in a modern first world country, I can confirm that the majority of people accept if a homosexual does the former too.
Stop it. I'm ashamed of contrived arguments like yours, because the bollocks you're coming out with also maintains the stereotype that everyone that identifies as LGBTQ+ is determined to start a fight about ~ heteronormativity ~. Not all of us are desperately seeking opportunities to declare war on heterosexuals. SonicFox can stand and boast about being gay for the sixteen time if he really wants, that is his prerogative, but a problem arises when he says that anyone who thinks sexuality != personality is homophobic. It's shameful, as is your poorly constructed attempt to start an argument that didn't need to exist.
waitwaitwait if people are unironically using "het", does that mean I can use homo again?
Just sounds like three-letter equivalent to gay.
one more step to gay domination and the total destruction of the straights, all as planned. real psyched
I am a man who is engaged to another man and I think he is obnoxious. I also think anybody who goes ""OH MY GOD I LOVE WOMEN AND FUCKING WOMEN SO MUCH"" is obnoxious. It isn't us vs them, it is a shitty personality trait regardless of sexual orientation.
If you really do wholeheartedly want to be a defender of the gays!!!, please put your efforts elsewhere. Concentrate attention on the many countries where it is still a crime, where it is a death sentence, where gay men & women are married to the opposite sex because the alternative is shameful (AT BEST). Donate to the various charities that are dedicated to causes like this. I do believe people that try to uphold this claim that all heterosexuals are EVIL do, under all the layers of nonsense, have the interests of homosexuals at heart. So make that passion count, rather than wasting it by waging internet wars in which even the homosexuals you're trying to defend are very reluctant to consider you part of their team.
I can't even tell my father's side of the family that I found the love of my life.
The fact that SonicFox can get so much outrage for simply being who he is, and flaunts it makes him a damned role model to me.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/3e30bfe8-3b56-4dd3-8dc0-c5443a44b116/sonicfox1.png
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/5ea20c25-af75-49c1-85ce-e376e06791d3/sonicfox2.png
Also, the more you get mad about it, the more coverage he gets.
Shreksonas rise up
That is clearly not the issue here. Whether you're unaware of that, or are manually choosing to ignore it, I do not know.
also your entire aurgument is based off of a rumor.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/69425e8e-30b7-4f71-98a2-0fcdd74d0e42/chrome_2019-02-13_23-04-18.png
A 30 second google search found me this
https://twitter.com/sonicfox5000/status/1083261235771117570?lang=en
It's really weird to me whenever I read posts like this because it means that either you've never been friends with normal people or genuinely almost every person I've met is some freak because I can honestly say I've been uncomfortably dragged into a conversation about pussy by almost every straight dude I know and conversations about dick with women.
Maybe I'm just surrounded by fucking loons, it's a real possibility, but honestly where do you people live where you're not forced into these encounters?
My entire argument is based off TurtleUnit's crusade against heterosexuals, because my problem was how it was being presented that people disliking the objectively obnoxious nature of shoving sexuality in everyone's face constantly is homophobic. Plus, @EmilyVasquez just showed the tweet that was originally posted on the first page. Try again. You'll hit the dart board eventually.
Sorry, I assumed you were too busy supporting alt-right rhetoric instead of reading. Doesn't hurt to post it twice!
Literally everywhere I go and everyone I talk to, close friends and friends of friends.
We have yet to talk about slaying that puss.
I think I've only talked about it once with my best friend and that was it.
Come on dude
not everyone who thinks sonicfox is obnoxious is some kind of alt-right nut
Saying an obnoxious man is obnoxious is now alt-right rhetoric.
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Are you kidding? Are you genuinely 12? I can't tell if this is a really weird troll, and in case, I must say congratulations on r/woosh'ing me. Somehow, to you, I am a homosexual that supports the alt-right in favour of oppressing LGBT rights. Very bold move. Bold, but incredibly stupid. My sexuality has been a cornerstone of some of my struggles in my life, so for you to assume that I'm, rather paradoxically, a gay anti-gay is downright offensive. I spent years of my life terrified of straight men because I was forever worried that they would see me a sexual deviant that saw them only as pieces of meat for me to fawn over. Such terror drove me to suicide attempts multiple times, and it was strengthened by real events in my life. You're acting like a child by whining and lobbing out pretty bad insults when someone disagrees with your fragile opinion. Try again. Dart board ain't movin' anytime soon.
people here seem to live these strange lives where nobody talks about sexuality in any context casually. dont even bother, theyll just argue your anecdotal evidence is strange and unusual as though everyone leads the same sexless christian lives they do
straight people talk about their fucking sex lives everywhere. to me, all the time. instigating their sex lives in my life like i care. why the fuck wont straight people fucking butt out. i dont wanna talk about your man's dick debra, shut the fuck up. how about i talk about how i like to eat pussy instead? but no. thats *going too far*
You guys do realize that‘s his opponent?
It's Facepunch
i mean i wasnt implying they dont get some, just that they dont talk about it, but if ur gonna do it for me thats great
You guys are the ones with the strange lives.
Even in the city at a pub no one casually talks about sex.
Not even with friends, it's just the wrong time and place unless there is an event going on.
I was trying to make a joke
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