SonicFox, the gay, furry, esports player of 2018, sounds off and won’t stop
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Australia
I thought talking about cunts was pretty common there?
I've never seen people do it either, especially in relationships, because then it's considered kinda...gross to reduce a girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/yada yada to a sexual value. Plus, perhaps try to restrict how often you associate with someone that will spend three hours talking to you about sex and then revulse if you try to reciprocate (for lack of a better term).
bro stop
Different type of cunts.
Yeah, sex is a personal thing, everyone usually keeps it to themselves or people they trust extremely well (and even then limited talks)
Maybe it's different in America but the most talk of sex and sexuality I hear is from America (outside of Media ofc).
I find it very obnoxious, for any sexuality, to flaunt it around constantly like Sonicfox.
Sexuality is just a thing you are...you have...it's not a personality.
You should be proud of yourself and your sexuality yes, but going around and flaunting it 24/7, I mean it's great how proud you are that you'd do that, but there is a time and a place.
It's ok to not want people talking about their sex lives, gay or straight. You don't have to put up with Debra's shit, but that doesn't mean I should go into work eager to remind everyone i'm a certified dick sucker. That'd just be uncomfortable.
Duke Nukem: Forever was basically the hetero version of this dude and it fucking sucked.
At not point in time did anyone above the age of 16 thought Duke's obsession with babes was cool.
Yes I agree but that's not what the question was.
"Yep, got my license in '08, been using it religiously ever since. Wait, where's everyone going?"
Perhaps it is a cultural thing. I know the UK is always presented as being full of toffs, but we don't all sit around in Wetherspoons or at at work talking about that sweet ol' vagina. I've worked two-part time jobs, working with fellow teenagers, and even with them the discussion of sex never went beyond 'She's fit'. Anyone that went into extensive detail about their 'conquests', or what they would do to someone, is met with judgemental looks. No one starts high-fiving them and agreeing. It's an awkward topic because sex is still a private and personal thing. We're not as prudish, but that doesn't mean we'll suddenly switch to discussing our deep throat techniques.
and the time and place is all the time until people accept gay people as normal. given that simply reminding people of the existence of gayness in a person makes so many people riled, maybe it isnt so accepted. you say straight people would be just as obnoxious as they did the same thing, and yet the deepest roots of our relationships in our culture is built around sex, even the most innocuous and platonic. the media is an easy example of this, tell me how many tracks in rap are about "fucking bitches" in some way? how many comedies in our society are boner comedies where frat assholes go around and fuck sorority chicks? i use media as an example because these things are often reflections of the ideas and realities that persist in our culture.
you insist you hate straight sexual expressions, and yet where are you? sonicfox is a member of the media just as these rappers and these dumb boner comedies are. where are you talking about them? why don't you talk about how much you hate them on facepunch.com? is it because they're normal for you? perhaps, in the way that sonicfox talking about his sexuality.. is not? because you're used to it?
sonicfox is doing something very real and he is extremely smart about what he's doing. saying he's gay is the exact same sexual normalization that these above examples are. you might hate the above examples, but the very fact i dont see these same people in this thread getting the same amount of rile over this is proving to me something is different here. if its just the sex, whats different this time? tell me. i want to know.
Maybe it's an American thing because I've had multiple bosses talk at me about their sex lives.
maybe it's because there isn't really a thread for that and this thread does exist
yknow, i dont believe that. im gonna be honest when i say i dont believe you actually would complain if a thread for it exists. because its normal. it happens all the time.
Uh dude last I checked you can actually go outside in America and be gay without getting beheaded, lynched or sent to jail
At the most if you were to hold hands with the same gender, you'd just get weird looks or an insult or two shouted at you (and then again who cares about those retards have to say).
i dunno i definitely would i mean i don't enjoy anyone forcing their sexuality down other people's throats i hate that kinda shit no matter who does it
if this is the only criteria that you believe are necessary for homophobia to not exist you are sorely mistaken
and you basically acknowledge its existence in the next sentence. stellar.
the optics here are really short-sighted if you don't understand the concept of normalcy and how cultural icons shape what is normal to be talked about and what isnt. 60 years ago elvis was so scandalous that his fat gyrating hips were too saucy for tv, now we have actual nudity scenes on tv. one leads to the other.
To be fair that depends heavily on where you are. Where I live I wouldn't want to be too open about it in public, the average person wouldn't care but there are people around here who still haven't gotten used to the idea of black people, let alone LGBT folk.
I'd say most places in the US people won't bat an eye at anyone who's out and proud, but in some really rural areas, especially in the south, it's still pretty fucking backwards.
Christ, that's horrific. Yeah, no, even the thought of that would cause some Brits to be repulsed.
I can't speak for everyone else that has commented, but I personally find the examples you've provided just as jarring, if not more. I don't like music that has to resort to "fuck bitches, get money!!!" because not only do I find it unoriginal, but because it essentially makes my skin crawl. I also don't watch said comedies because I don't share the humour of a 12 year old (no offence if anyone likes these films). My problem is not SonicFox doing Thing A, it's anyone doing Thing A. SonicFox is relevant to this discussion because, well, the thread is about him. But, as we have gradually discovered, perhaps the abundance of sexual-related media varies in countries, hence why I argued that I don't know any heterosexuals that boast about their sex lives. It's beyond weird in the UK. I can't comment on people that find sex talk awkward but then watch sex comedies, perhaps because the latter are typically exaggerated to a ridiculous degree.
I dunno man I think being able to go outside without being physically assaulted is pretty safe.
If people being insulted is all that takes for someone to not be deemed safe then that's dumb. That's like saying fat people aren't safe because people insult them, or autistic people aren't safe because people regularly use them as a way to insult others, etc etc.
Who the fuck do you hang out with if this is normal lol
safety is more than just physical attack, safety is the ability to share ideas without discourse being rigged against you, among other things. if straight people can talk about sex all they want, but i cant, which is easily the case in my life through my anecdotal experiences (just as anecdotal as the sexless lives you all lead), thats a clear-cut case of discourse being guided against gay people to silence them. to exclude them from conversation because it makes straights uncomfortable
rational theoreticals on the internet don't necessarily match up to real people's experiences of being treated like that
This is just outright wrong. He is a very excellent FG player who's dominance in some of the games he's competed in is almost unheard of. He is still a very, very strong DBFZ player that top players totally fear going up against. This is also really his first anime FG which comes with a lot of conventions and experience to internalize.
The thing is with SF is that he's still really young and not really that much of a veteran of the scene, and all of the games you mentioned (sans UNIST i guess, but even then melty players play that a lot) is that they have extremely long histories of dedicated enthusiasts. The best GG players have been playing for decades. The best BB players have been playing for a decade. He did OK in SFIV, and even then a lot of the top players are older than 30 and are serious veterans of the game. Even Punk as a bit of a young phenom faded away. Considering SF made some Top 8s in SFV I wouldn't say he got his ass kicked.
Have you ever considered the possibility that not everything is a conspiratorial attempt to persecute a minority and maybe this one guy who is a minority is just also kind of annoying and thats the extent of what a majority of the people who are taking issue have?
Lot of weird "im going to speak on behalf of everyone" goin on in here.
while I understand what you think sonicfox is helping achieve I greatly disagree that annoying people with sexuality is how you get it to become publicly accepted, it will create backlash and if it's too brazen it can definitely make things even worse
Really not convincing people by claiming that anyone that has difference experiences to you lives a sexless christian life. Wasn't that funny the first time you threw it out there, still not worth even a chuckle. I'm sorry that is your experience, and I would definitely encourage you to distance yourself (as much as is realistically popular, of course) from people who are hypocritical like that.
I don't talk about it, because they're Media.
If it was the rapper talking about it all the time outside of the music then yes I would be on it, if it was a TV actor going on about outside, yes I would.
Heck I ain't even into that shit, I don't like that type of humour or music.
The only time I am is if it's written into a story or fucking porn.
And all of those have context, Sonicfox talking about how gay he is every 10 seconds doesn't outside of him being gay.
There is no reason for him to talk about it all the time.
It's obnoxious and annoying.
then fuck the homophobes because they can't accept the idea that gay people are normal and can assume their sexual identity as much as straights can. straights are assumed-default so their sexual identity is already assigned to them. gay people have to talk about it in the first place to establish it. if it isnt normal to talk about, because public discourse shuns gay people from being talked about, they arent gonna open up about it for fear of rejection.
Also I ain't in any of those threads because 1, I don't feel like posting what everyone else posts, and 2, cause I have yet to see any threads in the same subject as this but for Straight people.
literally 0 of anything i ever think in regards to homophobes will ever include me bowing to their opinions. my opinion is purely, fuck them, and, i dont care what they think.
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