Shamima Begum: 'I didn't want to be IS poster girl' - Sensationalist Headlines

Wow theres always one tard like you trying to make it seem like the dumbass that ran off to join a terrorist group knowing full well what they do is innocent and didnt know what they were getting into. If you're a stupid shit for brains that does that, they don't deserve to come back lmao.

damn a whole thread of ak'z spouting feels before reals Some of his mental gymnastics are pretty well done at face value, but any further logic is flawed at best since most of his defences are baseless and tied into his fantasy of what happened to her in Britain beforehand

lmao all you like but joining the wrong team as a housewife is not the same as joining the wrong team to kill innocent people. you can put a woman on trial at least, but it's best to jump straight to extreme conclusions. and now you have a baby stateless because you can't process any actual human decency. punish the child dude, send a message to the public, give yourself a pat on the back. "mental gymnastics"

also please note back a few years when an actual terrorist murdered a soldier on our streets: Lee Rigby's killers sentenced HMM look at all those users defending a terrorist's human rights.

You're fucking nuts if you think people disagreeing with ghoulish death penalty bear-baiting is the same as this. Absolutely crackers.

there is more passion about punishing to the extreme a housewife with a child than punishing a murdering terrorist. you can spout paragraphs of nonsense but it's true.

But then you get people whining about who is going to pay for all the surveillance and Imprisonment. The answer is simple. We. All of us. Because we're not god damn barbarians who ignore problems (which in this case are actual human beings) hoping that they're going to magically disappear one day, i.e. ending up with bullets in their heads.

I'm in favor of this actually, if the first ones we send are all Neo-Nazis only.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. She made her choice now she has to live with it.

This is not how it works, the Geneva convention states every person has the right to a nationality, like it or not the UK has acted illegally by stripping someone of their statehood who does not hold dual nationality, before you jump on me. I'm not defending her or what's she's done, I'm not defending terrorism. But the government will most likely face a humiliating defeat in court over this further down the line. I really feel its important that people grasp than when I argue that she should be returned to the UK its not because I want her to get a slap on the wrist and sent home, its specifically so she can stand trial for what she's done. And by going down this path the government is freeing itself of that responsibility, essentially letting her get away with it.

If they'd stripped her of her nationality as soon as she left to join ISIS then who gives a fuck? Now that the waters are muddied it looks like the government have tried to force a solution, and maybe it isn't the right one. Who knows.

Last post on this because I cba with this any more, but there is absolutely nothing in the UDHR that says a person has the right to a nationality. The treaty regarding statelessness are totally separate and the majority of countries in the world didn't even sign it. You would indeed be right in saying the UK did sign the treat and would thus be expected to honour it, but people keep saying silly shit about it being a crime against humanity to remove someones citizenship which is absolute bollocks, no documents state as such. The treaty regarding this particular matter also states in article 8 that a persons nationality can be removed if they work against said state, which I'm guessing would include spying and likely terrorism as well https://www.unhcr.org/protection/statelessness/3bbb286d8/convention-reduction-statelessness.html So no, it's not an absolute right, people have been totally misrepresenting this.

Spying and terrorism, both crimes for which she has not been found guilty of, but obviously continuing to argue in defense of something blatantly incorrect and illegal is a lot of effort when you can just say "isis girl bad"

you waffle about the UN convention but it isn't about that it's about UK law and the only thing the secretary has is in the british nationality act so it can only be done under: "reasonable grounds for believing that the person is able, under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom, to become a national of such a country or territory" so what now, will we now officially recognise Isis as a state in order to keep a housewife and baby in Syria?