Youtube should just get rid of Creators program and have built in shit for Patreon and other donations methods, maybe have their own built in subscription function like Twitch, there's a big number of ways to have Youtubers get money from their fans now unlike back when Youtube first took off.
It would make youtubers not rely on youtube ad money and instead on the genuine interest of their fans and Youtube would only have to worry about providing a service instead of acting as an employer.
Rebrand the website as just 'Hub'
There's no new exploit here, brigading used the reporting system before. Brigading itself is the cause for takedown.
Innapropriate comments imo do the same job at a greater risk to the brigade because then you can be reported for your comment.
That explains the appearance of Will Smith in Rewind 2018, pretty much.
At some point, we're going to be living in the future with a Youtube that probably has no comments section due to being "not advertiser friendly", no rating system due to that being able to be abused, no ways to promote alternative funding due to Youtube not getting a cut, all on top of the current systems we have in place which discourage truly creative and risky efforts, and more or less encourage the safe and predictable.
Essentially, Youtube will just become another form of television.
Everyone freaking out about their favorite vloggers complaining that their videos are getting demonetized meanwhile youtube already murdered animation channels years ago and nobody batted an eye
I think they are doing something like already, it just hasn't been fully rolled out or something. Some channels have a 'Join' button next to the subscribe button that lets you pay $5 a month to support the creator and get some pointless perks.
Does this mean Eric Salvia now has the ability to single-handily demonetize entire channels?
Somehow I'm not entirely against this really, as a content creator you should probably moderate your comments either way.
YouTube does give a bunch of filter and spam prevention options, so its not the hardest in the world.
Other sites do the same, let your Twitch chat unmoderated completely and you can get banned as well.
As shitty as YouTube is, they probably shouldn't be solely responsible to clean up peoples comments, past spam and bots.
Another reason why we should all just move onto Pornhub.
You know what the problem is here? And what makes this, if you ask me at least, ESPECIALLY galling? Besides the fact that content creators already have more than enough shit to put up with?
Youtube can detect these comments. And rather than having those comments automatically removed or hidden, they're still putting the onus on content creators to find and delete them. Which is doable if you're a tiny channel but how the hell are some big channels supposed to handle this?
I can tell you don't know shit about youtubes moderation tools for comments. It is garbage at doing anything. It flags things wrong all the time, doesn't get the worse comments, etc. And knowing youtube, they will rush out their new tools, and it would be even worse, just like everything they ever rush out.
Also, why is it the responsibility of a content creator to clean up their comments, but not youtube?
You say that, but they've had 4 years to make a bot figure out when a video is or isn't monetizable and they've essentially given that up completely. It's not gonna end well.
I don't see a winning move for anyone.
Man i sure miss the pre 2006 youtube before google stuck it's corporate dick into the whole thing.
More points to throw at folks when they ask me why I don't try to make money off my two channels...
I have a feeling this is an experiment in preparation of the uploadfilter in the EU. Would make sense for YouTube to make content creators responsible for the content "uploaded" to their channels, ie the comments. That'd off-load a big part of their task of moderating to the creators
False positives aside, I like how their solution to stopping possible pedophiles is to demonetize them instead of removing the content.
All the people I care about on Youtube, I also sub on Patreon. If Youtube disappeared I wouldn't mind, as long as my Patreon subs found another way of distributing video. Hell even bittorrent would work if someone built a decent subscription layer on top of it.
It's pretty telling that their "solution" is to just demonitize the videos Pedophiles jack off to, instead of figuring out a way to actually handle the problem.
This whole new "head in the sand" approach reeks of putting incompetent people in charge because they have the "right" politics.
It became obvious a long time ago that YouTube just doesn't want to pay content creators anymore.
But they know that just coming outright and saying so would cause everyone to jump ship, so they just keep making these bullshit rules that make it near impossible for anyone to qualify for monetization.
Shit situation all around.
Youtube comments are one of the least intelligent places on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if innocent people start getting demonetized cause jose gonzales2009 said "penis"
Now they're just letting the pedophiles watch the videos without having to skip ads.
Use their high ground in negotiations?
It's clear that advertising agencies and old media are weaponising every little thing they can to get cheaper ad space and claw their competition down with them, respectively. First it was photoshopping ads onto 300 view white nationalist videos that were never monetized to say "youtube's paying nazis!" then it was "youtube's biggest creators are nazis/racists and are corrupting your children!", then some other bullshit, and now "youtube is enabling pedophiles!".
The thing is, youtube has a fucking monopoly on online content. Nobody is going to fucking vimeo, since they've gone whole hog onto the coorporate monetization model, meaning youtube is the only game in town. All youtube has to do is go "actually no, we can't be held responsible for our user's content, we're just the vehicle for people to post things, so long as it isn't illegal, fuck off. And if you don't want to advertise here, there's a massive fucking line standing behind you of companies that do. Get in line or get stuffed".
I'm not eagerly endorsing a monopoly doing what it wants lase faire, but i am saying it fucking hurts to see a towering giant like youtube bending the knee to a bunch of furious little gnomes biting at it's ankle, at the cost of free public platforms. Ironically, a monopoly not playing it's own game is somehow ending up with granting coorporate actors even more power. what a weird fucking time.
Also holy fuck is this ever easy to weaponize. It was bad already, now you can get procedurally nuked for something you have literally zero control over. It's now technically impossible to do no wrong under youtbe's standards.
Thats a fair point and at least it is some solution but the way I see it Youtube is not making money and has to be propped up by Google in general to be even viable. Yes it has huge reach but I am not sure it directly translates into power because I am not too sure who would fare worse and be able to survive the stand off, companies making and selling stuff or youtube itself. And as a mainly advertising platform/business why would Google want to bite the hand that feeds it? This is different if Youtube is actually turning a profit or is even able to break even. Overall wouldn't this amount to Youtube telling companies you will have no control over what your ad airs next to and we make the rules?
Overall I will be honest I am not too sure how this monetization and ads work in the end. I assume even these demonetized videos will have some ads, but not uploader controlled? So the money made from those ads will only go to youtube, presumably covering overhead with no profits to the makers of the videos. I don't know if these companies who have complained about the content still have their ads presented on these newly demonetized channels with only Youtube pocketing the gains. If that is the case it is very hypocritical but if youtube actively stops these brands from advertising on these demonetized channels and puts up different ads to cover platform costs I don't know what I think...
heres an idea, garry builds new youtube for actual content creators
Garry is, after all, a billionaire.
Youtube Advertisements have never been a stable way of making money since the first Adpoclaypse. Even before that, people were saying you need to diversify your income.
In addition; you hear any big time youtuber talking about little channels. Ignore them. Immediately. Its not to say they don't care, but many of them don't seem to realize nor remember that small time channels have been getting fucking dick all for the past oh...5 to 6 years anyway? You will never make enough off advertisements, thats why a lot of channels that have gained popularity have either done it in a big way by exposing something big while working a normal job.
Or they rely on patreon and a close knit community.
The solution is for Youtube to grow a pair and tell Advertisers off when they start making unreasoanble demands like they have done here.
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