Rotten Tomatoes disables comment section prior to a film's release
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That's a fair critique, it just seems like a similar pattern to what we saw with Ghostbusters 2016 when the trailer was disliked a million times and Sony blamed misogynists.
I completely agree, and I think studios use outrage culture to deflect criticism.
Mark Ruffalo, too.
He (Ruffalo) also posts extensively about environmentalism, including DAP and the Standing Rock protests.
I'm not missing the point.
Equality starts when, in this case, both genders get the same chances, not when you suddenly give all the chances to one side but stop giving a damn about the other.
Nobody here is denying the problem, but trying to solve it by giving it large diversity AND possible bad quality, isn't the way to go.
It's the equivalent of company diversity quotas. Hiring someone because of their race, and not because of their performance. That in itself can also spark anger.
As others have mentioned in this thread, you are literally not reading anything about the article and just projecting your incorrect and weirdly misogynistic posts with random tangents about "women reviewing my video games getting it WRONG" onto the situation without doing any background research because you didn't even read the article or see the part where the reason she asked for women/minority critics is because she had only gotten talks from white male reviewers and wanted some different opinions.
you should see all the Iron Fist release reviews, several mainline reviewers flamed the show and gave AWFUL SCATHING reviews because the lead was a white male, not because it had legitimate problems. This is the world we live in today.
mysoginistic why?
where did I say she shouldn't ask for a different opinion?
uh the movie set in china in the 1800s? damn whoever was complaining about that must not have read book history LOL stroke help
You're assuming two things here. First, you're assuming that they don't "understand a thing", and second, you're assuming that outside opinions are a bad thing. There is literally nothing wrong with someone who isn't familiar with a piece of art giving their opinion on said art. That's basic critique.
And why are you assuming that?
I don't have a problem with outside opinions. The problem I have is if they are reliable and professional, or straight up biased and pandering to you or your ideas. If you search for the opinions coming from a certain group of people, when another group of people were harsh on the critics towards you, thats obviously gonna raise questions if you're just looking for opinions that pander to you. They're both subject to interpretation.
Despite that, that wasn't even the problem here.
..the tv show?
damn i wasted the stroke bit on this? shit. fuck
when can they stop making superhero films
pls
After Enter the Spiderverse I realise I don't have much desire to see live action super hero movies anymore.
That film just blew my mind and now I want other superhero films to try different things with the visual presentation to give a comic book flair. That visual style was just fucking incredible, and the action scenes benefitted from the lack of realism. It was a visual feast of color and movement, and was just so well designed. It made me notice how bland yet noisy the live action movies seem, as the actors don't "pop" with contrast and the movies tend to be visually chaotic during fights due to the restricted camera angles and large amounts of particle effects.
Every superhero movie nowadays kind of has a similar "gritty, realistic" aesthetic, even in fantastical environments like Guardians. It's getting old. DC movies are doing the same thing, besides their animated features which fly under the radar on streaming services.
So to me, Captain Marvel seems to be a return to bland, yet noisy hero flicks, so I'm not terribly interested in sitting down for two hours for that. I also have no real attachment to Captain Marvel as a character and the trailer failed to get me excited, so I'm just gonna pass. Its not really my cup of tea I guess.
Woah hold on. I didn't say that I think it's going to be a bad movie. In truth, I want it to be a good movie and I don't give two shits about the gender or ethnicity of the hero as long as the movie is good. Wonder Woman and Black Panther? Both legitamently great films. But I had the same apprehensions about these too. Are they using the fact that it stars an ethnic cast or a female lead to hide the film's misgivings? Is it going to be like Spiderman Homecoming which surprised and annoyed me with crap truthisms that distract from the film such as "Welll liiike, you know that the Washington monument was built by slave labor, riiight?"?
And that's not to say the film can't get political at all either, but only if it's something that's actually a part of it. Black Panther's Killmonger was an interesting villain because he had a point, but his solution to Wakanda seeming to turn a blind eye to continued racial oppression is enslaving whites in turn. No, that's actually good because it impacts the film as a whole rather then pausing to churn out a pithy one-liner about something completely inconsequential to both the film and it's themes.
Now if I do see Captain Marvel then I'll be seeing it how I normally see these movies - mostly blind. I understand that you'll have a few alt-right foamheads doing internet pranks to the film in order to get people to maybe not see it (because they think doing this is funny, I hope you understand) but if the reaction to these dickless bastards with too much time on their hands is more gender- or ethno-shielding then I'm sorry, I may then give the film a pass for the same reason I gave the Ghostbusters reboot a pass - I don't go to the movie theater to watch bad movies.
Why the fuck was this not a thing before? Why would you allow audiences to rate a movie before they've even seen it?
They've destroyed the First Amendment!!!
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1100684997810405376?s=09
Correct me if i'm wrong but the First Amendment doesn't apply to privately owned websites right?
First amendment means I can say whatever I want and you have to listen to me and give me a platform to say it on.
no it doesn't
I really hate that broad labels like being an essjaydubbya or a women-hating russian bot mean there's no middle ground for people who just don't give a shit about the film.
If you're going on forums to shit on a movie without even seeing it, then yeah, you do give a shit.
I misphrased that, my bad. I don't care if there's an SJW angle or if russian bots are downvoting the film before its release, I just don't want to see the film. Carol Danvers is an unlikable dick in 90% of her incarnations in the comics and the trailers give the impression they didn't think they should show some other angle to the character instead. I'm annoyed that the next Avengers film won't make any sense when she shows up and solves the culmination of 10 years worth of story-telling when being half-arsed in half a year before that film comes out.
You realise that the more political people leading the "Star Wars bad because woms" meme had the exact same complaints about the original trilogy back in the day right? There's a Brietbart article from way back when about how ANH is leftist propaganda because the diverse underdog rebels with their revolutionary looking leaders were facing off against the mostly white male space fascists.
The only reason this kind of thing has blown up so much recently is because of the rise of social media, where edgy contrarian ~anti-swj~ content is favoured by algorithms because it generates controversy.
It's also pretty funny that you bring up one of my favourite films, Mad Max: Fury Road, as an example that people don't mindlessly hate on any film with a female lead- because Fury Road did have people mindlessly hating on it because it had a female lead.
"Omg the feminanzis strike again the film is called mad max but the story is about the strong femoid furioisa and max isn't the main character?.... Ive clearly never seen a mad max film before but I sure am angry!"
And this wasn't just a few crazies on the internet- because social media pushes the most extreme dumbass opinions to the forefront of everyone's attention.
I had my friends repeating MRA wank about the film pandering to feminism after watching a few too many Youtube "reviews". To this day I will still get the occasional outburst from someone I'm chatting to at the pub or the vape shop if we start talking about film and I bring up Fury Road.
Ghostbusters 2016 sucked and the cast definitely tried to write all criticism off as anti-sjw trolling- but imo that was an exception, not the rule.
Yikes, but I’m not sure this is worth freaking out about
You're right, Mad max did have a good number of people crying out about the female lead. I guess the question ultimately comes down to, (and we probably can't know for sure), are there thousands or millions of people out there who don't like woman leading their movies, or is it a loud small group?
I tend to believe that the majority of America and Europe don't care and even embraces female leads and roles in film, and the minority who don't like that are not big enough to sway the box office in any real way. So if a studio blames misogyny for their movie doing poorly, that might be true, but not by a massive amount.
This is where many will disagree is; how many people out there bigots who won't consume media that doesn't align with their narrow view of beliefs. I think the number of bigots and crazies out there seem larger because as you stated; "social media pushes the most extreme dumbass opinions to the forefront of everyone's attention."
Oh yeah, I remember people getting pissed about Mad Max. Probably because a woman driving was too progressive for them.
I remember that there was a partial script leak, people freaked out at the lack of focus on Max, other focused on the female charecter. It was unfounded, but I also was a little peeved at time at the idea of Max playing second fiddle in a Mad Max movie. It turned out fine, Max was given little diaolouge, but defined by action, and I loved the movie.