• Steam game about raping women will test Valve’s hands-off approach
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I get being dead set on getting into Steam because it's reputable enough to not feel shady buying something there. But yeah that air of it is fucking gone if you try to make your own bullshit site. half the reason people don't buy porn games is they all have their own shitty ass website you don't want to give your card to
I don't think trolling has anything to do with why it wasn't allowed. We then have to make a judgement call about any risk it puts to Valve, our developer partners, or our customers. After significant fact-finding and discussion, we think 'Rape Day' poses unknown costs and risks and therefore won't be on Steam. Basically they are saying they don't want to take the risk of whatever possible consequences might come from selling it on Steam.
Nothing but the usual containment leak of someone being extra delusional. Pretty much this.
Oh is that why the thread why closed for a bit?
To see if 10 minutes of no posting would do anything. Clearly not. Anyway back on topic pls or tag me in FD to talk more about it.
I just went to Meltys' Quest and then jumped around in the relateds list. Easy peasy. There's way more, too.
I don't want to defend this because nothing of value of lost and I'm in favour of stricter moderation ..but "representing unknown costs and risks" sounds to me like an amazingly vague and even Orwellian justification for removing something
It's just PR speak. They might want to be purposefully vague if they haven't figured out if they want porn games or not.
For what I know, they allow adult games but only some of them, basically nothing that can be considered "dangerous" and if you want to sell it is even more complicated. When the news about Steam allowing anything surfed up, the owner was super against it and he warned that "Our ban buttons are ready.". They exist, for example MangaGamer has his own store for selling everything that they publish. Nutaku is a store that sells pornographic games, but they don't accept certain stuff like incest thanks to the payment methods that they use. The best store for selling porn games is DLsite, they sell basically any fetish that you can imagine it BUT is 99% Japanese games only (There are some Chinese/Korean games as well). So yeah, they exist but is not as easy as you think. Western porn game makers usually use patron and donations because they simply don't have others alternatives. Random trivia about Melty's Quest: It was the first game to be patched to be completly uncensored and use the "Adults Only" option on Steam. The publisher (?) seems like a nice guy, and the game is really well crafted unlike this crap, so I hope that never happens that one day the game is removed from the store because some Polygon writer feel bad.
The issue that came up was loli. Same as Discord, same as Reddit, same as elsewhere. There are many places, even in the western world, where loli is considered exactly the same as child pornography and therefore highly illegal. Hence why these companies have been working at banning it. Some games on Steam had overt loli content. And others tried to skirt it with the "1000 year old <x>" excuse. Steam didn't want to risk loli, so games with it couldn't sell or else had to go back to off-platform patching.
Do you have a source on that? The itch.io owner never specified which content he was talking about for what I know, he simply said: "Please keep your malicious, derogatory, discriminatory, bullying, harassing, demeaning content off. Our ban buttons are ready." On the itch.io terms only mentions this on the prohibited content: "Posting content that promotes or participates in racial intolerance, sexism, hate crimes, hate speech, or intolerance to any group of individuals." I heard that itch.io only accepts vanilla stuff on the store and is very ban happy to stop anything else.
When the SJW's take away your god given right to rape
I'm pretty sure "vanilla" is very relative in this case, considering almost all of the "popular in this category" have kink on them. It won't show up unless you register and enable it in your settings, though: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/532/f37edc74-b23f-4cbb-956c-f2c713ce685f/grafik.png
That's what makes it weird though. The game should have certainly be removed for being of extremely poor quality/an asset flip... but why didn't they remove it stating that? But the unknown and risk thing means they're removing it because of the bad press that could befall upon steam in case it were allowed, right (not a rhetorical question)? I mean, Valve acting baffingly is the least surprising thing ever... but doesn't make it any less weird.
I like how the thread linked and even the screenshot you used has a moderate and understanding take you're clearly ignoring
I love this new trend of people making these clearly and low quality games that people should be clearly mad at, because it's shows how terrible Vavle's new Steam Direct hasn't improved jack shit But because they include some gross shit like rape, it's suddenly becomes "the bastion of freeze speech" and people end up defending it because "it's triggers the SJWs XDDD" Case in point
I don't think that anyone wants to defend this particular game, everyone knows that is some troll trying to make people angry and getting free marketing. But, even if I personally understand why Valve did it, some people are angry that they don't follow what they promised about don't being the taste police. I repeat myself: Valve needs to start communicating with the developers and tell them what they are allowed to do on Steam so problems like these stop happening.
That guy you quoted is clearly mocking people saying that valve should stick to its hands off policy
I really wish steam had a specific list of what is an isn't ok. I know rape is (obviously) going to be controversial but in Hentai rape is one of the most vanilla things you can watch and most of the H games on steam feature it in some way or another even if it's the "Oh I didn't want sex but after you raped me I totally do and love you now" kind.
On one end I understand why valve as a company would take a game off. On the other end I don't support the people saying it should have been taken off because of rape. It's the same argument that was used to try to censor violent videogames. You can't go "Well violence is ok, but rape isn't" because neither is more likely to make someone commit a crime. Obviously someone who doesn't want to see rape wont buy a game about rape either so it's not like it's forcing it on people.
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