• Simpsons pulling episode with Michael Jackson from streaming/future box sets
    304 replies, posted
Literally no one is arguing what you're trying to present. It's already been pointed out that Michael Jackson was not an almighty innocent being. You: Guys, MJ wasn't the messiah you're trying to present him as. People: Ok. Yeah, he was pretty weird, but that's not a crime. Also, here's some evidence that says he isn't a criminal. Innocent until proven guilty. Here are holes in the story of the one-sided documentary. The FBI found nothing. By matter of law, he's innocent. You: Guys, MJ wasn't the messiah you're trying to present him as. Clearly emphasis is necessary, because you've reposted the same nonsense multiple times. Please, tell us all one more time about opiods.
it's okay his bedroom was big, that makes it ok. his father abused him, that makes it ok. at least we're now in agreement is that he was a weird person. baby steps I guess.
You're just angry that your shitposts aren't sufficient to justify the leap in logic from "he was weird" to "he was a rapist" BUT MAYBE IF YOU REFUSE TO USE CAPS MORE YOUR ARGUMENTS WILL BE MORE CORRECT
Several of the "victims" were proven to have lied, either with inconsistencies in their story, or outright admitting to lying after he died. This guilty until proven innocent shit is especially stupid when you consider this. Michael Jackson was an easy target for scummy parents looking to make a quick buck. This is certain. This is proven. What is not proven is whether some of the "victims" were telling the truth. I'll stick with what has been proven.
I am genuinely worried about your inability to read.
Jesus Christ. AK'z and HumanAbyss are posting some absolute shite in this thread. Michael Jackson was a very odd man, he had a horrible childhood and tried to use his wealth to create a childhood he never had. He was an emotionally stunted man who identified more closely with children than adults, because he never grew up himself. MJ had no sense at all and did a lot of stupid shit any reasonable adult wouldn't do because, like a child, he never really thought ahead on his actions. He spent all his time trying to escape reality when what he needed was someone to show him how to grow up and cope with the real world. He was addicted to horrible opioids, but that was in part because his shitty doctor overprescribed horrible drugs to him, the same doctor who was charged with MJ's death due to negligence. Yes @AK'z , we get it. He was a fucking weird man. That doesn't mean he was a paedophile or that he molested kids. Just repeating "He was weird, he was weird." Isn't an argument. @HumanAbyss , the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' is a fundamental part of most Western law systems. To ignore it on entirely emotional pleas is the antithesis of justice. There is no proof that Michael Jackson molested or raped any children. His friendships with children can easily be seen as inappropriate, even if they weren't sexual, but that doesn't mean you're justified in calling him a paedophile with nothing to substantiate it. OJ Simpson was acquitted because his case was mishandled even though there was enough evidence to prove he was a murderer, MJ was acquitted because no evidence was found that he molested or raped any kids.
What did Michael Jackson even do in this removed episode?
He voiced a mental patient who believed he was Michael Jackson (in the end it was revealed that he knew he wasn't Michael Jackson but liked to keep up the act because it helped him interact with people, but spending time with the Simpsons gave him the confidence to be himself instead).
he never grew up, that makes it ok. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhL8LIOl5FE thats his sister wow... never realised she said this.
No one said this. Learn to read.
i suppose louis theroux's 2 cents might be something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYT_lC3RJL0
Literally the sixth post says he's a weird person.
He never grew up, thats why he's weird. Being weird doesn't make him guilty. It's almost like you are intentionally trying to mis-understand what was said.
https://twitter.com/louistheroux/status/1103689654027632642 dang.. i need to watch this
holy shit @AK'z shut up, quit the projecting, man
Oh hey. a reactionary who is completely ignoring the things that have been proven about these accusations, either because they never knew (I doubt the documentary will fill them in on it), or they just have a really fucking short memory.
then why all this crying that his legacy is being tarnished. what is that about...
Having boys in his bedroom isn't illegal. It's hella weird, but not illegal. It's also not sexual abuse, which is what the accusations revolve around. Learn to read.
dude, i'm just not ok with mj's inappropriate lifestyle im sorry. i still like his music.
Since when did a video starring two "alleged" victims who swore under oath that MJ didn't abuse them, as well as some dipshit on Twitter screaming about it mean more than the actual high courts who could not find any evidence of abuse, sexual or otherwise? This is pathetic.
Congratulations, Louis is a retard in this situation.
just being pedantic here, not disagreeing with the rest: there's a difference between innocent and not guilty, courts in the US afaik only hand out not guilty verdicts
So just retroactively removing him and the entire episode because it's got MJ in it, rather than anything controversial about the content therein. Hoo boy.
His "bedroom" was the size of a fucking two story family house why do you people keep bringing this dumb shit up. Not like, one giant room, it was literally a two story building inside of another building.
I don't really understand the logic behind removing the episode even if he was convicted guilty. It's an episode from the early 90s, it has been released several times. Do it really change anything other than "a pat on the back PR"? Do the molested kids get unmolested by a removed Simpsons episode?
Everyone saying any of this, hasn't watched the documentary. They haven't watched or listened to any of the victims testimony. The guy is 100% guilty. The only reason he was found not guilty is because he's a millionaire and the most famous pop star on the planet. I would implore you to do some research, listen to their testimony, and watch the doco.
How does being a millionaire change the fact that the courts couldn't find any substantial evidence to prove him guilty? You think people wouldn't be chomping at the bit to convict an alleged child molester? You claiming that Michael Jackson was "100% guilty" because of hearsay doesn't change the fact that he wasn't found guilty.
They weren't though. Everyone was chomping at the bit to find him innocent, they always have. He's a universally loved musician. It's easy to say that now without having lived through the height of his fame (making an assumption here).
I'm not saying he's innocent, just that he wasn't found guilty. I didn't know the guy, I can't say one way or the other if he did anything illicit. What I do know, as was stated in this thread prior, is that Jackson had a severe complex resulting from an abusive childhood. As a result he took to children for friendship so that he could live vicariously through them in an attempt to reconvene with his own innocence. Does this mean he's a pedophile? No, not really, and we'll never know. I'm not implying that the testimonials from his victims are lying, just that it's neither indicative of guilt or innocence. We can't question Jackson so there's no way to substantiate their claims. To say he's definitely guilty is a result of an emotional impulse, not one of factual evidence.
Don't really get what's hard to understand about "testimony on its own cannot be sufficient to damn someone as a rapist" Especially when an FBI investigation found no wrongdoing. All the actual evidence points away from guilt. "I trust them" isn't good enough.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.