Actually, this relatively new.
Advertising didn't relate in the past, instead it sold you on a lifestyle or made it a part of the national/local identity. Now its attaching itself to social movements/hip culture to look like they're 'woke'. Even though often times their involvement is in name only and they're actually actively fighting against said social movements in the background.
people like to make fun of "b-but shes 5,000 years old!!" but why is it so horrible for a specific art style (chibi) to be used, and say that the character is of an older age? thats the whole purpose of chibi, to exaggerate characters to have smaller proportions than usual. hell, i would even say in marketing its popular for companies to utilize chibi mascots.
and absolutely none of the art that they reposted (4 that i can see) is even remotely close to being scandalous, i dont really see where youre getting that from.
I'm surprised they didn't try it earlier, I remember the Wendy's mascot being a fad for artists for a while.
im going to fuck a hamburger
Ok yeah but assuming the character is a loli they're idealized drawings that are designed to be unrealistically attractive. Not really comparable to getting off to actual kids since no one is being harmed + artists have the ability to make anything attractive compared to the real life counterpart.
Stop acting like it's going to want to make people diddle actual kids
such a cute waifu
just like miku!
Oh get out of here with this crap. Do we seriously need this garbage in every thread?
It's just a stupid cartoon mascot, get over yourself. Their twitter, artists, and others are just having a laugh but apparently were not allowed to have a giggle at a silly marketing stunt because their "mascot" kinda looks like a kid, who isn't real btw.
Chibi isn't loli.
It's about as loli as straight up cartoon caricature because that's what chibi is, is caricature. Exaggerated proportions to look simplified and cute. Nothing more, nothing less.
It's like saying a western-cartoon styled simplified bobblehead with exaggerated/super-deformed proportions of someone is loli.
Mate, you're chasing ghosts that don't exist here. They drew a cute mascot and asked people to draw fanart of it. There's nothing sexualised about it at all.
Here's their original image and the images in the original tweet thread:
https://twitter.com/InkoArt/status/1104100142376984576
https://twitter.com/sandforte/status/1104106148586647552
https://twitter.com/virsachisu/status/1104081364578525184
https://twitter.com/Psychospacecow/status/1104128665519079426
If you think there's anything remotely provocative or sexual about these images then that says more about you than it does about anyone else tbh.
Honestly pretty much all of the art has been really tame, most pictures are either fairly good or shitposts. I think I saw one picture that may have had a panty shot but that was the exception.
Besides who cares if the people make nsfw fan art anyway, it's not like Arby's are the ones doing that or promoting that kinda work so what does it matter.
If the first thing you this is porn when looking at this, sorry, I got bad news for you, you might be one of those freaks. None of the shit I see retweeted is sexual at all.
Also, if you are seeing a lot of porn near the top, since none of the retweets are porn, Twitter seems shows what tweets it thinks you want to see first and if you follow a lot of 18+ twitters, it might be the reason.
I will have you know that I have a very powerful foot-fetish and I am 1000% erect now.
You know regardless of what you think this is some fucking disgusting logic to use and I've seen it used to shut down abuse victims who've called out obvious abuse in both social circumstances and on the internet. "Oo-err, takes one to know one, doesn't it?" is a pretty lame and, in subjects like this, potentially dangerous thing to say.
For the record my twitter isn't following anything explicit (it IS 18-verified though and I have visited other 18+ stuff on Twitter) but this is in the immediate thread of that Arby's post (and a post which is disturbingly heavily liked)
https://twitter.com/realbichosan/status/1104087781792514048
I know the rebuttal to this will be that it's not an explicitly sexualized or pornographic image and that I must be the sicko but the implication from the style here it is relatively clear and the artist of this draws (fucking revolting) loli shit on their own twitter.
Said artist also has some lovely (read: bollocks) things to say about how drawing loli is morally and ethically Good rather than, at best, neutral to grey:
https://twitter.com/realbichosan/status/1104228975533002753
Exact same logic from a poster who links to explicit drawings they make of children in their description. You can pretend your arse is perfectly clean but I am calling out exactly this kind of patent bollocks that people who fantasize about abuse hide behind.
You can screech about how loli isn't actual children and that makes it OK all you want, but keep in mind you're outright defending the legitimate kiddyfuckers among the loli fandom (not that I personally make a distinction even if I respect that other people might; to me they're all paedo cunts) by casting blanket like that.
For most jobs the fear is robots taking over, but for advertisers it's getting outsourced to the general population
I design a character who is either a child, or let's say for this case an adult who looks youthful. Ten people draw fanart that is completely innocent with zero sexual features. An eleventh draws porn. Who's fault is it, me and the first ten, or the last guy? Is it my fault for drawing a character that the last guy finds desirable enough to draw porn of?
I'm going to crack open the can of worms for a second there, just because you find somebody drawing porn of a child creepy as fuck, because it is, does not mean anybody actually got hurt. You are putting feels before reals.
They well and truly knew what they were doing by making the character and labelling her very clearly as a waifu in their own words, so they likely knew that she'd end up being sexualized by the greater internet. Doesn't take a genius to know that, nor does it take much more than a bit of research (the Wendy's mascot being the primo example), so they could've at least not picked one that looks like a kid.
The fact they had to explicitly state she's 52 should have been a fucking alarm bell to anyone with sense that maybe the design was a bit too fucking petite???
I turned on my VPN, used twitter incognito on the arbys tweet, and know what I saw? Not that till I scrolled for a while, and the only reason I saw that was since well.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1977/35a2a0ae-4f3b-4939-80d6-00a10e1d177d/image.png
(which says more about twitter users than arbys)
It is since you look at porn accounts, You don't need to follow those accounts for it to do that, twitter knows every tweet you ever even remotely saw. Its how it keeps track of ad tweets and figures out how to advertise to you.
And ofc there is going to be people that draw porn, even fucked up shit like loli. But to REMOTELY act like its the same as actual CP like you are, is more fucking disgusting to me. You are actually stating in my mind that a drawing is a victim as much as an actual child that was sexually abused.
Do you have any idea how many people use the word waifu to just mean "anime girl"? It's a fucking lot. The person who interpreted this as " therefore we want you to draw child porn" is you because you're on a moral crusade.
I like how the goal posts keep shifting back and forth between "She's not actually a kid, it's fine" to "Kiddyfucking art is OK because no actual kids are getting fucked". Make your fucking minds up.
I think it's more likely the drawing was commissioned by a bunch of old farts who only see the word waifu as a synonym for easy cash
You know I wanted to hold out on playing this card because it's gonna get shat on as a sob story but do you know who actually gets fucking hurt by this shit? Actual victims of child abuse, like myself. Do you know how fucking insulting it is to see this shit on the internet, even in passing, even infrequently, from arseholes who make this kind of shit and pretend that it's OK because no actual kids get diddled? You can yell about feels before reals but fucking god almighty it is really fucking insulting to have people stand there and patronize to me about how because it's a feeling and not some authoritarian fact, me being upset and reminded of six years of vitriolic, calculated sexual abuse I suffered is just "feels before reals" and means fucking nothing at the end of the day. And you know what the fucking worst part about that is? It's fucking true. That's the worst fucking part about being traumatized and being abused- - it actually means nothing. It teaches you nothing. You learn nothing. You just have to fucking live with that weight on your back for the rest of your life while other people will tell you that it's not a weight at all even as your bones are creaking under the stress of it all.
I honestly do not know how to equate this but to have people posture to me that it's OK because it's just drawn art even though it's actively screaming to me about child abuse is just such fucking inconsiderate behaviour and such sneering arseholery I cannot fathom how any of you have the logic to say that shit when you know full well real people do get abused as children. Why would you ever want to defend people who legitimately fetishize something that is so abhorrent? I'm not even an advocate for banning it I just don't get why you and other commentators have to die on this hill in favour of fucking kiddy-fiddling fantasists. It's mind-blowingly stupid.
Not a single fucking person ever, ever stood up for me when I was being abused and so many people refused to (and continue to refuse) to listen when I spoke out about my experiences and showed them both the mental and physical scars it left on me, and it continues, to this day, to happen to others, and yet I see people constantly jump to the defence of loli artists instead, screaming about how they have a right to it because it's just art and doesn't represent anything.
Yeah. OK.
Got it, you are the type of person who goes "think of the children" but its not that, its since you are disgusted by it. I mean, so am I, but guess what, I'm disgusted by foot fetish shit too, maybe we should throw those people in jail too.
silence, brand
It was inevitable, once "woke" advertisements stop getting a reaction out of people, they'll all move onto the waifu fad.
Arby's always tweeted out to niche crowds, as shown here
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/236793/03a87ca1-d159-4366-a83d-28fd6e54ab05/image.png
As for their food, I like it
their coffee shake is really good, but I really miss their onion petals.
it's incredibly sad how effective this type of marketing is - using outrage and controversy to get people talking, Arby's just one example of this recent evolution of "human" social media accounts.
Arby's is not gonna suffer any blow from this at all, they'll just keep the act up and take in those engagements and remain relevant through all the outrage and support. the ideal would be that people shrug 'em off and don't give them any sort of publicity, but this will never happen. it's Wendy's part 2.
it's a genius move on their part. I just wish it didn't come at the cost of seeing this shit on my timeline.
the character design is cute though, so props to whoever did that.
It's not just that. As seen in above tweets they're quite literally getting people to make advertisement for them completely for free
In before the pedo defence squad descends upon the thread.
Honestly I think that's what has me maddest about the paedo shit people have posted based on the design -- it legitimately hit a trigger point for me and that's what they want because no publicity is really bad publicity when it comes to this dumb shit.
My favourite bit from Reno! 911 was the Piping Hot Arby's sketch and yet I think I've said, thought, and typed the word "Arby's" more in the last 48 hours than I have in over a decade of loving that skit.
I'm sorry, but all I see is chibi, nothing controversial from arbys related to sexual shit. yeah, people did draw porn, but it doesn't matter what they put up, porn would happen even if it was just a box.
And to say the style is porn is flat out wrong
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1977/768bcbc3-0874-40d3-b0d4-2210d4c9d520/image.png
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1977/43265729-43d4-4c07-bd4b-c3ffb754267b/image.png
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1977/2697a0e3-8446-45d3-92a8-49cd9c561961/image.png
Does any of these look like porn to you too?
Only thing arbys did wrong is trying to trick artist into free art. which is disgusting in the first place.
This isn't even loli anyways.
the initial design isn't sexual. I didn't say that, but they vanked on the waifu crowd, knowing the exposure fanart would give them.
they proceeded to light flames when people questioned them on their character, stirring the pot. that's what I'm getting at.
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