Xcom-like Phoenix Point will be an Epic Store exclusive for one year
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There's not such a shortage of games that I need to purchase from an exclusive store. If Epic wants to attract me with lower prices, that is one thing, but if the intent is to buy year exclusivity, I guess I'll play the games a year later on a different platform.
Oh boy, doing this on a title that was already on another storefront was bad enough but...
A crowdfunded game? Really?
This Epic store is a godsend.
My game backlog is already huge, so any motivation to trim my list of future purchases is handy.
Satisfactory
Phoenix Point
Lol dodged a bullet then. I was about to back this shit last month.
I think Microsoft putting the Halo collection over their own store and especially epic should be a big indicator that epic isn't fooling anyone except bright-eyed indie groups, and those guys will learn not to fuck their customers like this. I hope.
i skipped metro exodus and ill skip any other game that makes a pc store exclusivity deal.
Epic Games are shit, they seriously need to just fuck off, they don't care about their own original ip's besides Fortnite, I magically don't care about supporting them anymore, how about that.
That exclusivity deal and possibly sale guarantee must be very very lucrative. He KNOWS shit's going to hit the fan but he did it anyways.
Epic makes billions annually, they can afford to toss a few millions around.
Originally Fortnite wasn't a battle royale game, but a base build zombie defense game(it was pretty fun). As soon as their battle royale mode hit it big, they dropped everything else like a sack of shit.
This is unexpected, I am looking forward to PP but this is pretty awful. Especially coming from such an awesome development team.
Worst aspect is that the game got crowdfunded and was already set up to be sold on steam, gog or on other sites. Really misleading and changing the different backing tiers is really scummy.
Not sure if the devs were struggling financially but overall PP gained a lot more attention recently and is advertised pretty heavily.
Dangerous Driving, Shakedown: Hawaii, Satisfactory, and now this.
True shame, but I know my wallet isn't sad about it at least.
Maybe this sort of monetary asshole behavior is sort of acting as a necessary evil to somewhat threaten Steam from their monopoly and finally make the market more diverse? Even if they are being jerks about doing it?
Maybe after they see enough negative feedback from this shit they will instead focus on more straightforward competition since if they have enough money to bribe devs then they should also have enough money to develop their platform in general?
The problem has to do with the fact that directly competing against Steam without cheap tricks is kind of hard given how entrenched and massive it is.
As someone else suggested in the thread, the development of completely their own exclusive games could also certainly help.
aw fuck was looking forward to this.
Is there a games company more hypocritical than Epic? Weren't they the company who hated pc for years, came back, wanted to make a great Unreal Tournament until Fortnite happened, CEO said Microsoft forcing themselves upon everyone is bad, then do the same thing but even worse. More I can't think of too.
Bullshit, fuck anybody who buys off this platform
It definitely is a massive bummer about Unreal.
people complain about steam all the time, all you have to do is make a stable program with the features people want without anticonsumer practices and youve got decent chance at pulling people in.
the way epic is currently doing it isnt encouraging anyone to buy from their store, all its encouraging people to do is not buy the game.
Steam isn't a monopoly, I wish people would stop saying this. There is already diversity in the market and just because they aren't as big as Steam does not mean they don't compete. Whether people like it or not, Steam, despite its many faults, is still the best digital games store. Unfortunately, Epic has decided they'd rather compete using bullshit methods rather than try to make a superior platform.
that's the point
They will suck. But EPIC is literally cutting checks left and right, so the developers get what they need without any big fuss
I guess I don't necessarily mean an absolute monopoly, rather there appears to be no services of equal size to Steam I think?
I am not sure if absolutely everyone is going to hate this whole epic thing and whether the gaming population will agree with this opinion or not in relation to not buying stuff from them
I might get it on 3DS
Downloading a launcher hurts
epic zinger dude. completely missing the point.
I don't understand the mindset behind this. Yeah, you get a better deal because Epic take a smaller cut, surely that is completely nullified but the amount of sales they are losing by people who are getting refunds or just not buying it because it is on Epic?
Up front cash and sales guarantee. If, let's say, their game is projected to sell 20k copies, Epic comes along and say: "alright kid we'll throw 50k at you and if your game doesn't sell that 20k copy we'll pay for the rest. Now sign this paper and pull your game from other platforms." If they have had issue with Steam before now they have a really good reason to support Epic Store while getting paid for it. After all, some devs do believe that by helping themselves they are helping everybody.
Had a look on Reddit, and apparently one of the community managers confirmed on Discord that this is the kind of deal they got, and it was so good that they'd still be well in the black if every backer requested a refund.
Suffice to say the "interest free loan" theory is beginning to look pretty accurate.
For a very small number of consumers. Your average consumer does not care, and this move will get the storefront more users, which Epic is probably hoping will grow to a critical mass at some point of users and games for them to launch into being a true arbitrary storefront instead of only having several games. The thing is that right now, your average consumer simply has literally 0 incentive to even try the epic storefront because steam is good enough for said average consumer. They know that folks like you aren't going to buy the games as a result and they don't care because you aren't the demographic they're targeting with this.
I've checked the Facebook site of PP and most people are clueless and think that the issue is only tied to the launcher itself, not the entire controversy regarding the exclusive deals.
It seems like the sooner Fortnite dies and Epic run out of moneyhat money the better
I think the only time I see exclusivity as remotely acceptable is if the company who runs the store owns the IP (such half life on steam, or battlefield on origin), and then the platform should really not be shit.
If 'competing' with Steam requires resorting to underhanded, anti-consumer, scummy tactics, then maybe it just isn't worth it in the first place.
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