• Turns out Johnny Depp was abused by Amber Heard.(court doc and photos included)
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The state of domestic help aid for men is quite severe, several states use the Duluth Model as their legal framework for domestic abuse issues. The Duluth Model cannot and will acknowledge domestic violence against men.
Ah, makes a lot of sense. Not sure how that makes him an asshole though. Surely this news report proves that he is getting drunk to deal with his anxiety/personal issues and isn't taking it out on anyone else? After reading some of it, it seems Amber Heard (allegedly) fabricated pretty much every aspect of him being abusive or an asshole, and now there is proof that it's actually the other way around and she is abusing him? Not sure why everyone wants to paint him as an asshole just because he drinks. 🤔
he's also spent nearly all his massive piles of disney cash, fortunately it was on realestate, artwork, and rare wines which have appreciated but still
It's worth reading up on the Duluth model, which is the dominant domestic abuse program in the US in terms of how many courts adopt it as their ordered rehabilitation. It presumes the man to be the abuser, citing radical feminist literature, and asserting that men are socialized to be violent by the patriarchal structures of society, and are abusive strictly beause of inbuilt/socialized compulsion to assert power and dominance over women in relationships. And in my reading of it's literature, guidebooks etc, it does not even entertain the possibility of the woman being the abuser, and again, absolutely assumes that the man is the abuser in all cases. (even though women are statistically more likely to be physically abusive, men just cause more harm when they are the abusive one because duh) It's so bad, the woman who actually created the program said this about it "By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. The DAIP staff remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with. It was the cases themselves that created the chink in each of our theoretical suits of armor. Speaking for myself, I found that many of the men I interviewed did not seem to articulate a desire for power over their partner. Although I relentlessly took every opportunity to point out to men in the groups that they were so motivated and merely in denial, the fact that few men ever articulated such a desire went unnoticed by me and many of my coworkers. Eventually, we realized that we were finding what we had already predetermined to find." And yet this is the standard/dominant program that anyone who undergoes abuse or is an abuser will be put through, even though it has a 40% recidivism rate. And there's many other programs like it. I found some of the guidebooks/literature for it and read through it a few years ago, and I'd recommend giving it a look. It's utterly pernicious nonsense, and i'm utterly confused as to how anyone adopted it, let alone how it sees widespread use 40 years on.
That sounds more like investing than spending.
Yeah, that kind of thing is actually typical for anyone with a lot of money and at least a vague sense of monetary planning. Turn cash with a set value in to assets that can grow in value, thus not being specifically tied to currency. So like thats actually a very reasonable thing to do.
not when it lands one in bankruptcy court and your accounts completely dry. None of that was certain to go up in value and there's a large surplus of high end real estate right now that is causing headaches for anyone who wants to sell.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1095/602f3ff9-2f44-46a9-8ed4-b0d8d296329e/image.png NSFW obviously
Ouchie.
Fun fact! My state, from 1978 'til 2017 required that somebody be arrested when police answer a domestic violence report. In 2017, we made the surprising and progressive move of adding the language "may not arrest" to the law, for cases where there was "no clear aggressor" or both parties were equally responsible. However, virtually all law enforcement agencies in the state still enforce in line with the old law as written (since the revision only indicates voluntary clemency.) It's no coincidence that as Domestic Violence reporting sharply declined through the 80's here, that "noise complaints" sky rocketed. Likewise, domestic violence reports simply... stopped. Weird. My father was actually a victim of this law, when, before I was born, a neighbor overheard him and my mother in a shouting match and reported it. They'd stopped fighting before the cops even arrived, but he was still arrested and held in the drunk tank for 24 hours before being released with charges dismissed. Still, his record permanently featured a DV arrest (no charge) for the rest of his life. This lead my family to the wonderful conclusion that we never call the cops. (Okay, I tell a lie, there's way more to that but those are stories for another time.)
"slicing off some of his finger" doesn't do it justice, what the hell.
i swear to god the fucking comments on amber heard's instagram are all overwhelmingly supportive Amber Heard on Instagram still calling johnny depp a monster and shit
I can't tell if they're being willfully ignorant or they just didn't hear the news. Likely the former, sadly.
Most definitely the former, as most people are. Rather than admit you got something wrong, they retreat to the comfort of arrogance and cast disdain towards those fiends that dared prod at their bubble of superiority.
Yeah, shit like that's wide spread. It's almost like high quality legislation and policy is really fucking important and is being woefully neglected by our increasingly politically illiterate political class, or downright subverted by ideologically possessed actors. Is it any wonder everything's a mess these days?
A lot of it is probably a feedback loop from the residual image of him as a wifebeater. Even if you don't think he's abusive, you might still have a negative image of him from when you did. That said I'm loathe to accept this as truth so easily. I didn't really think he was an abuser, but I don't think it's fair for everyone to immediately say "okay that proves it he's 100% innocent and Heard is evil"
Yeah there's a frankly fucking stupid amount of people either flat out saying "yeah whatever he's still an abusive monster" or "well the evidence hasn't been proven or anything so he's still probably the one abusing her," ironic given that they flocked to her defense immediately no question. For a long time now it's been pretty obvious that the definition of "equality" in the social justice area of the internet has been massively skewed but this pretty much throws it in everyones faces that equality is quickly becoming "tear one side down to elevate the other" and not "mutual growth together, as a species, society, and people." Fucking disgusting, honestly, it gets me so heated.
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