• UN finds massive temperature increase in the Arctic is unavoidable now
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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/433886-un-report-finds-globe-is-past-the-point-of-halting-temperature-rise The Arctic is now “locked in” to experiencing unnatural levels of temperature rise by as early as 2050, according to a new United Nations environmental report out Wednesday. Dramatic temperature increases in the globe’s northernmost region, which is typically covered by permafrost, is unavoidable, according to the report released at the United Nations Environment Assembly. Even if countries were to meet the original goals of the Paris climate agreement, it would do nothing to stop Arctic winter temperatures from increasing 3 to 5 degrees Celsius by 2050 and 5 to 9 degrees Celsius by 2080, according to the report. The resulting sea level rises worldwide would be devastating. The report also warned that the rapid thawing of permafrost in the region could likely accelerate the effects of climate change, which could completely negate any long-term international pacts and goals to limit global warming to 2 degrees Celsius compared to 1986-2005 levels. To put the study’s findings into perspective, even if global emissions were to completely stop overnight, winter temperatures in the arctic would still increase between 4 to 5 degrees Celsius by 2100 compared to the late 20th century’s temperatures, the study found.
In the 90s, we were warned that it wasn't too late. We didn't listen and now it is too late. It is both exciting and crushingly depressing to know I'm going to get to watch the world die. I will not have the comfortable, stable retirement my parents may have and my grandparents enjoyed. We had better invent some space-age carbon capture technology that's 50000% effective if we want to try and stop things now.
Or invent grey goo that becomes sentient and seed the atmosphere with it as it kills 95% of the world's population to lower carbon output.
We can do that with current technology. It's called nuclear missiles.
As Donald said, "if we have the nukes, why don't we just use them!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SYpUSjSgFg There's a Futurama for everything.
I guess we weren't born too soon to explore the stars after all. Humanity might not get to do that at any point in time.
So long Earth, thanks for all the air and shit.
To be honest, I don't think we're gonna solve global warming. Instead, we'll just survive and adapt as humans do, to the new world with raised sea levels and the extinction of many, many species. All this after a global population decline.
There's going to be a huge humanitarian crisis, but you live in a relatively rich and stable country inland you will probably be able to ride it out if we start turning things around now. Hope you like corn btw
Don't we already have the tech for it? As far as I remember its just not economically viable, makes me wonder at what point those might just be built disregarding the cost or from some huge emergency funds. Then again I think thats a bit optimistic, a lot has been going into reducing climate change, just not enough and fast enough.
We also have the ability to: Create vertical farms in urban areas Desalinate seawater on a scale massive enough to sustain whole cities Seed landfills with plastic-eating bacteria, and harvest the gasses that come from them Seed clouds over drought-stricken lands Grow beef in a lab, no cows needed Give the whole world a marginal base income for their basic needs It's just a matter of putting money in the right places, or more pragmatically, foregoing any notion of profit for the sake of survival. Once we start seeing Miami underwater, the Great Plains drying up, and the Southern US washed out from monsoons, then maybe we'll start seeing this kind of stuff put into place. It's all going to be reactionary rather than precautionary. Things that make lives better have always been a reaction to something else, even something as small as the possibility of profit. Profit which, quite obviously, none of these stand to make at the moment. If governments and corporations were truly interested in investment in future safeguards against the fallout of climate change, we'd have a lot more than the Paris Agreement. Not that there aren't movements already underway to take action sooner rather than later, but the fact that there is an opposition to such things only goes to show that, in our society, greed is a hell of a lot more powerful than empathy.
Well if all else fails, the breakdown of society to anarchy at least means we can guillotine the rich without consequence, so we have that to look forward to if things don't work out. Actually, now that I think about it, can we speed it up?
Soooooo when are the big fossil fuel executives and the politicians they paid off going to be tried for crimes against humanity and locked up indefinitely and all their assets seized?
Right after they die of old age while on vacation in their 14th mansion.
They're busy getting survival bunkers in New Zealand, so I wouldn't count on that approach working out very well https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich In private Facebook groups, wealthy survivalists swap tips on gas masks, bunkers, and locations safe from the effects of climate change. One member, the head of an investment firm, told me, “I keep a helicopter gassed up all the time, and I have an underground bunker with an air-filtration system.” He said that his preparations probably put him at the “extreme” end among his peers. But he added, “A lot of my friends do the guns and the motorcycles and the gold coins. That’s not too rare anymore.” https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/23/tech-industry-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity After I arrived, I was ushered into what I thought was the green room. But instead of being wired with a microphone or taken to a stage, I just sat there at a plain round table as my audience was brought to me: five super-wealthy guys – yes, all men – from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. After a bit of small talk, I realized they had no interest in the information I had prepared about the future of technology. They had come with questions of their own. They started out innocuously enough. Ethereum or bitcoin? Is quantum computing a real thing? Slowly but surely, however, they edged into their real topics of concern. Which region will be less affected by the coming climate crisis: New Zealand or Alaska? Is Google really building Ray Kurzweil a home for his brain, and will his consciousness live through the transition, or will it die and be reborn as a whole new one? Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the Event?” This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed in time.
I forgot to bookmark this article when it was published and couldn't remember any keywords. Thanks. Also doubly recommend it to anyone who thought twice about bothering to read it. It ends on a very sympathetic note.
Yeah, you'll find a whole bunch of articles like these if you Google search terms together like "Survival Bunker New Zealand Climate Change". Not all of the articles mention Climate Change, though. Some are just more eccentric plans to avoid things like potential Nuclear War, or other non-Climate Change/collapse related events.
Not to mention, if there's enough Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere to where human mental cognition is impaired, wouldn't that also affect the survival bunkers too after a certain point? It genuinely would be mutually beneficial for the rich and poor if they put that money towards fixing the problem instead of pussy-footing around in survival bunkers.
Hitman 2's Isle of Sgail level is real
As far as I can intuit from a layman's point of view, bunkers (in relation to Climate Change) would only protect against temperature rises (via AC, as long as they still have energy) and protection against moderately-severe weather elements. They'd still need to account for Insect Population Collapse, Carbon Dioxide saturation and the associated mental cognition impairment, etc. Sure, properly educated people could try to work around these larger, macro-scale issues. But, I don't see any small scale solutions to those kinds of issues that would exclusively benefit the niche of rich people who live in bunkers.
I could never live like that, even if I had all the money in the world to build a bunker. That's not even living really. It's just postponing death.
sounds like you just wanna kill people. if you're not worried about consequences, then why don't you just try it now and see what happens?
It's not too late to mitigate the effects, or to delay them. It isn't too late to actually recover after what happens. The world isn't dying. But we will if we give up. Hey everyone, this is a great time to start doing every single thing that you, as an individual can do, as well as spreading these messages to other people. Your individual contribution might not help much, but if you change your behavior, and so do a bunch of other people via movements, and said movements correctly lobby, then you, as an individual, can help. The easiest way that you individually can help right now is by massively reducing/removing your meat consumption, eating non-meat-based meals when possible; additionally, cut out all driving that you don't absolutely have to do, opting to use public transport instead. By doing these two things, you can at a minimum help out without actually having to change your lifestyle.
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We are gonna tear each other to pieces in war, as humans do. Literally BILLIONS of people are affected by this. Most of them not in the "Western World"
*Laughs in 50 BMG.*
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