Unfortunately I don't think 4chan's servers are located in a region where they could be under New Zealand, or any of their partners, jurisdiction.
Even if it is, politicians with the power to call for its shutdown will most likely not realise its existence. This needs to change now.
8chan is the place famous for child pornography groups thriving there, yeah?
Fubar...
Just a quick FYI to people freaking out about Fraser Anning, he's part of One Nation, a Political Party in Australia that exists to syphon votes off racist people (parties here will receive funding if they exceed a certain amount of votes). They're basically a half-assed Aus version of UKIP that doesn't do much aside from pop their head up every now and then to say something outrageous like this and appeal to their base voters in North Queensland (Australia Florida).
I don't think any written sources have updated it yet, but the police commissioner just announced that four people have been arrested, one of them charged with murder (due to appear in court tomorrow), and "several" firearms have been found across both crime scenes.
Live updates
I thought I'd gotten over this whole thing. That the sickness in my stomach when I spent an hour reading up on this tragedy was over.
This is perhaps the most sickening thing I've ever read in my entire life.
oh my fucking god
dozens of lives lost in the matter of seconds
stay safe my new zealand friends
This is beyond surreal.
Have they confirmed at all whether those were the only 4? Or are they still unsure if others were involved?
IIRC all they said during the conference was that they're still searching for other connections, but they don't think there's any more shooters to be found.
Whats sickening to me most is now angry I am at the actions of this defective unit. Using tactics to specifically target apposed groups and create a negative reaction towards each other. I can only see the actions of today as a platform to validate the views of groups that don't need a spark, or call to arms.
The coming days and how people come together or tear apart will be something monumental, and at worst case, could be a case like Sandy hook again.
he's with katter's party now i believe so no suprise he hates immigrants and loves guns
https://twitter.com/fraser_anning/status/1104238354944520193
https://twitter.com/fraser_anning/status/1105374678200139782
just another rural conservative from queensland, totally ignorant to what life is like outside of their happy farming/mining community.
This is exactly the kind of attitude that leaves so many of our cultural problems unaddressed, "this terrible thing is associated with this non-terrible thing, so how can it be bad" - you see it when people deny that entire subcultures based around nazi tropes could ever perpetuate something insidious, "it has jokes", "it's satire"; you see it when abuse of children is excused because it's "tough love", or it "instills discipline", or because they still liked their parents afterwards; when someone dehumanizes a race but look, he also has a black friend, so how could he be discriminating?
And it's always preying on other people's fear of embarrassment, too. You're an idiot for not getting the joke, you've got no real world experience if you think spanking is bad, and you're the real racist if you pointed out prejudice. "lol calm down" yeah, that'd be good advice if it wasn't predicated on condescension and "4chan has a cooking board, how could there be anything bad about it"
TBH just keeping control over 4chan away from people like Hiro and Moot might be enough to stabilize the place. /pol/ wouldn't exist without Moot's idiocy and Hiro's sociopathic greed.
Death and sorrow, at least in countries like New Zealand, is an outlier these days. There was once a war called the hundred years war that ran for almost 120 years
Out of curiosity I went on the_donald to see what they had to say about this incident, and I was surprised to see that most of them actively despised the perp. Maybe not all for moral reasons, but they were very angry at most of his notions.
t/d actively decries racist acts on a continual basis then supports the policies that make the situations happen in the first place.
They actually believe they're the good guys and they literally just don't have the ability to a -> b, a, therefore b.
why is this real
just. why.
It's the definition of "dogwhistle politics". Publicly Trump says these acts are horrible and evil, but then adds a rhetorical *wink* to his far right supporters. I.e: in Charlottesville, saying "Good people on both sides"
https://twitter.com/theprojecttv/status/1106471346303754240
Just want to drop this here. I'm not particularly a fan of Waleed, but what he says at the end is incredibly important.
From my knowledge, The Project has always been incredibly on the Liberal side of things. The fact that he is publicly calling out Scott Morrison for "changing his tune" is a sign that this wont be shrugged off in a weeks time like many other attacks that happen around the world.
Hopefully this enacts some form of change and we can get some of these racist politicians out of power finally so that people who care can finally take over and something like this never happens again in NZ or AU.
tl;dr of what's going on politically?
Is Scott Morrison some sort of trump-style racist piece of shit?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-sees-votes-in-anti-muslim-strategy-20110216-1awmo.html
This definitely isn't "new" news if you look at the date, but he always has had this attitude. He dislikes muslims and thinks they shouldn't be in Australia just for the fact that they are muslim.
He's not exactly like trump, definitely not as open with his opinions as trump but he does have parts of that in him yes.
Really he shouldn't even be prime minister.
Basically in AU we haven't had a PM finish a full term since 2007, and our last actual PM Malcolm Turnbull was kicked out by his party so Scott Morrison took over until the next election.
Yeah but PewDiePie has been complacent in his alt right fanbase, and somebody with that much of an influence being seen on "their side" really emboldens white nationalists, and helps with their recruitment so more people do insane shit like this.
And to those who say he isn't complacent, he literally follows people who push "The Great Replacement" the same shit the shooter mentioned in his manifesto.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537479184113598464/556053440724205569/image0.jpg
The fact you are judging someone and assuming their ideologies by who they follow on Twitter is a pretty big lol.
I bet plenty of people follow Donald Trump just to see the bullshit he posts, but absolutely hate everything he stands for.
I bet plenty of people follow meme pages that post some pretty dodgy memes, yet don't actually agree with them, just find them funny.
Ok, but PewDiePie has a history of flirting with figures of the alt right or alt lite. The E;R incident being a good example, where the video he specifically linked had a reference to the "Grand Jewish Conspiracy", along with the "name the jew" segment listing jews who own the media. Which was really not-so-subtle propaganda.
Following does not = endorsement
People follow accounts for reasons aside supporting them. Hate follow to see the dumb shit they say, to see viewpoints of a certain side/people, etc (which is what I do)
You have zero idea to as why he is following them.
When you have a history of hating 'duh sjws' and the 'mainstream media' in the same manner as the hacks in that follower list do, while also remaining silent about the use of you by the alt right and not openly condemning such use..Perhaps I'd be more inclined to find those follows to be of endorsement. If PewDiePie can come out and say that the use of him as a symbol by the alt right is bad, that making jokes about killing Jews isn't cool, then maybe I'd think otherwise. But he hasn't.
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