[BREAKING] Livestreamed mass shooting in Christchurch Mosque, New Zealand
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whoa this dudes a hardened internet badass, better not mess with him
Yeah, 4chan gets its bad rep from the containment boards. Back in the day it was /b/ and nowadays it's /pol/
It's needless to say that those boards leak out into other boards, containment has proven not to work.
8chan is odd as when it was first made some of the top boards were /pol/ /christian/ and /cuteboys/
But I don't think anyone outside of the site will miss it if it gets nuked.
Containment boards that are gigantic and centralized are less for containing than for giving crazies or malicious ideologues their own easily accessible, well advertised forums. Getting rid of these places is like breaking down a blockage. You have to atomize the mass before you can filter it. Once large boards are gone, not only will it become harder for people to fall prey to the extremist ideologies espoused by those places (since it now takes effort to find them), identifying the most dangerous communities/individuals will become easier since they aren't all packed together into a torrential flow of discourse. The smaller boards that replace the /pol/s will have less resources to deal with monitoring, legal action, or deplatforming tactics. We cannot stop extremists from finding ways to reform their communities, yes, but we can fracture the movement at large and turn it back into a fringe thing instead of a growing cultural phenomenon.
It's not my job to prove your argument.
You realise he probably mentioned pewdiepie just to fuck with him and drag him into this whole mess right? It's like when Anders Brevik said WoW influences him. He did it just to fuck with people, stop falling for it.
If you honestly believe that this shooting was anybody's fault other than the shooters, then you are absolutely delusional.
Like half and hour ago
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/58145/6d249a2f-e108-4113-ad08-0444117fa970/65264326456456546.jpg
WPD has never been about that what the fuck?
Honestly can't believe it took this long.
As much as I dislike the people on that sub, and their cries about 'free speech' that sub had made me more aware on the road and save me from a near accident.
Crazy how militant religious conservative extremism hasn't seemed to fix militant religious conservative extremism.
Should had seen the thread about the shooting, plenty of people crying 'muh free speech'
r/pewdiepiesubmissions has gone private too
Stupidly knee jerk if you ask. They didn't even allow the footage to be shown, and the subreddit was already quarantined.
It's not my job to spoonfeed you either. I'm so sorry you're afraid of the truth and refuse to seek it out.
if you're making a claim then it's on you to prove it lol, how is this hard to understand?
At least the fucker is in custody.
I'm starting to believe it is someone's job to spoon feed you
Some of those quotes are bad but it doesn't convince me that they should bear the burden of mass murder, SH and JP are popular but the kind of people who are capable of committing atrocities like this aren't interested in what they have to say.
If you seriously think that /pol/ has less influence in radicalizing people than fucking pewdiepie at his edgiest, you're absolutely fucking delusional.
Go on /pol/ right now. There's plenty of people crying about how this is revenge for something and how muslims invaded and other garbage like that. You don't need to read everything, just skim a few threads.
You think staying in an environment like that for a long time doesn't affect people as much as pewdiepie making a racist joke *once* and using a racial slur *once* and shouting out a guy who turned out to be a racist *once* and in the end apologising for every single one of those?
Surely you're not afraid of the truth are you. It's not my job to spoonfed you. Just google it.
You can shove your "truth" right back up your ass.
One of our clients at work is a buzzfeed-y kind of website. I'm an admin on their facebook page for dev purposes so I get notifications every time someone comments on the news video about the shooting and holy fuck the terrorist-apologizing is insane. Every 5 second my phone buzzes with some lady named Pam or Marjory or Deborah saying "this is horrible but why don't we ever see articles about muslims killing christians!" or "Maybe the muslim community should denounce the violence that muslims commit!" or some heinous shit like that
Boomers being boomers
I don't think Pewds is some white nationalist idol and I feel like "subscribe to PewDiePie" has become such a meme that that's mostly what it is, and linking Felix to these people is a distraction. Sure, he's probably not done enough to tell these people to fuck off but I don't think that would stop them at all. If anything they would dig in and meme Pewds more. Like the Pepe creator trying to kill pepe. It just showed them that people are taking the meme seriously and they dug in their heels.
I've known some friends who fell down this alt right rabbit hole. There's like a spectrum of people who are doing it for memes and laughs but its the start of a radicalization process that ends with people being dead serious about it. I've asked a friend why they go to /pol/ and believe these things and it was basically "it started out as memes and something to do." But if you surround yourself with people who share memes about how the Jews and Muslims are bad, eventually you're going to start believing in it. And in the nature of anonymous boards eventually you'll be exposed to texts and other ways to consume these radical ideas.
I feel like radicalization almost always starts out as something you think is harmless. Then it's a slow drip until you wake up one day and think about how the muzzies are taking over the planet. That's how it sometimes seems like normal people can fall into the trap.
I feel like Felix is a victim of the alt-rights meme culture. Sorta like pepe and all the other things they've gotten associated with themselves because it gets a response from the media which they find funny. Although Felix does have a bit of responsibility in attracting the attention due to some of his jokes like the Jew fiverr thing and the N-word. But iirc the alt-rights latched onto these things mainly because the media overreacting to Pewds. (Articles calling Pewds a Nazi for one bad joke, etc) They saw how it can get a response and fed off that.
It this lousy partisan mentality that has ruined these discussions, this, the kneejerk rections and manipulation to push agendas that people get from it.
These are the same type of kneejerk reations that fostered the culture of islamophobia after 9/11.
Watch People Die is one of those mixed bag/double edged boards. The accident videos are/were justifiable to keep around, since you could learn from the mistakes people made in them, but the ISIS execution videos weren't justifiable to keep around for any reason, they were just glorifying terrorism and murder.
They don't want to admit that they're the bad guy. They're literally asking 'please validate that we're allowed to be racist to muslims because i've bought hard into that stock and made it a part of me and you can't just tell me that i'm racist, it's justified by their violence'
If you're gonna claim something like this, back it up with sources. You have 24 hours
Don't bother with ultimatums involving morons
The alt-right do this kind of stuff to try and force people onto their side. By pushing things like "subscribe to pewdiepie" they want to turn left leaning people on him and force him over to their side by essentially forced association.
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