[BREAKING] Livestreamed mass shooting in Christchurch Mosque, New Zealand
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god this alt right terrorism is horrifying. I hope that nobody copycats or revenge kills.
This is so fucked.
If we're talking about /pol/, then same as here. Dumb comments blaming the Jews or "(sand)niggers" or the LGBTQ community should be banned. Hate speech should even extend to "the left"/"libs" but considering it's not bannable to insult the right here, it's probably unnecessary. If a website is unwilling to get some people to moderate it, then they are free to blame themselves next time this happens.
/pol/ doesn't have to be a place reserved for the far-right. It became one because extremists pushed moderates out. Only moderators can work on tempering the extremists and punishing radicalization.
I always took it more as making fun of Serbian nationalists honestly. Hence the intentionally atrocious video quality.
You're correct but the actual likelihood of 4chan or 8chan or whatever actually getting real Moderation is slim to nil, I doubt whoever runs those sites give a fuck.
Disgusting that there were even tributes to the shooter
https://kotaku.com/valve-removes-over-100-steam-tributes-to-suspected-new-1833328548
The music video originally is definitely real and serious as a Bosnian Serb I know IRL's father had seen that specific video and others like it, but the Karadzic parts are edited in. The accordion player and the guy who shouts "God is a Serb" were also indicted for war crimes.
Yeah, that's what I mean. They took a pathetic, sincere music video and added in the Karadzic elements to take the piss out of him and nationalists. Sadly it was taken the wrong way by utter cunts who don't know a thing about Serbia or the Balkan wars.
literally posted screens proving the opposite just a couple pages prior. 8chan deleted the thread and discussed it meanwhile 4chan had images of people dying with WASTED comments among other things, including being thankful that the guy put it on the smaller /pol/ so 4chan's /pol/ had a better chance of surviving this
the 8chan is when 4chan is too tame rumor isn't remotely true, the people leaving 4ch for 8ch was related to /v/ not even the places where the fucked shit happens
The guy planned this for 2 years according to his manifesto and started popping up in 8ch about a week ago according to that guy who tracks QAnon conspirators. Where he advertised the facebook stream doesn't really matter anyway, but 4chan /pol/ definitely had horrible things while 8ch's community and /pol/ mods were tearing down those threads. There's likely an overlap too, since the thread was made on 8ch I'm sure a lot of 4channers showed up to the live happenings, I know some threads on 4ch were asking for links to it
But who's doing the moderating? People from the community likely to volunteer are the most dedicated members, and probably even more radical than average. Paid mods from a different pool of people? What incentive is there to go that route that these sites haven't had before? Moderation is a fair compromise, but it's not some easy fix. Doesn't T_D technically have moderators, for example?
Question is will this moderation ever happen? I don't think any of the mods have any interest in curbing any of this behavior no matter how deadly it can become.
Just in case there is any lingering uncertainty as to why a terrorist would shout "subscribe to PewDiePie" during a shooting rampage...
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5a30216a1600004800cf0d08.png?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale
Source (Daily Stormer's handbook on radicalizing people online)
Despicable as always. Also, I can't find any corroboration on this story and their source is some small Christian news site, which I doubt can be trusted.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/134149/e4b06d1f-6673-4ce2-ba4d-4c4a0a91f27e/image.png
I'm going with it's 8ch admins
I think someone back in the thread said that most of T_D was actually condemning the attack, which shows that they are not as radical as /pol/. But in any case, inaction leads to radicalization. If 8chan is unwilling to moderate their /pol/, would they be willing to delete it? They might not care either way.
...so, was my arm-chair psychology on Page 3 actually kinda accurate then? If so, that's... well, don't know how I feel about that to be honest.
Well Nigeria has Boko Haram so it wouldn't surprise me to find it's true.
Of course the real reason it isn't big news is that "people die in war torn country" isn't generally considered big news like an attack in a first world country is. Same as how Iraq will have attacks resulting in hundreds of deaths but you won't hear anything about because it's so common there nobody would be surprised by that news.
Yes the guy who lets the alt right shit up his highly viewed show who helped normalize people like Ben Shapiro isn't in any way responsible for the murders of 49 people, thanks for taking your fucking time while the blood is still dripping on the goddamn ground to defend a Youtube celebrity.
Here's his friend that doesn't want you talking about what the killer believed, or what his poisonous ideology inspired.
https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/1106610384893407232
Seems pretty obvious to me that /pol/ boards have become a cultural disease and need to be removed. We don't let radical Muslims use twitter and other big sites to spread their filth, and if these people want to be terrorists then I figure it's time to cut them off as well. It was funny at first, then it got worrisome, but y'know whatever. Now it's obvious that these are radicalization echo chambers, and if it were up to me I'd be giving them the boot.
If they wanna' talk this shit they can do it on Stormfront or whatever but they don't deserve to be on any site where normal people talk about normal shit because that just risks infecting more vulnerable people with their bullshit.
Well shit, watching that was a mistake. Do they have the death penalty in New Zealand?
I hope not, as much of a threat to society this guy is, executing him will only make him a martyr.
Wow really cleared that microscopic bar didn't they, props to them, I am clapping at my monitor right now, incredible
What most of T_D is actually doing is attempting to blame this squarely on the left, while also perpetuating the exact same lunacy that this guy lived by. It's a shithole, lowest of the low, and a breeding ground for extremism. Condemnation in the face of that is utterly worthless
My residential ISP hasn't blocked it but my cell phone carrier 2degrees has. Wow.
You mean, while you on the other hand are taking the time to blame the YouTuber he name-dropped as a meme instead of turning your attention to the actual killer?
You're right, Pewdiepie isn't in any way responsible for those deaths.
Holy fucking shit you're still defending him, he wasn't just namedropped, Ben Shapiro was featured in his videos.
There is a pipeline leading from Ben Shapiro to the /pol/'s that radicalize people along the way, giving him a platform ironically leads to actual fucking violence. This shows you that ironic racism and toxicity is still fucking toxicity.
It is, but my point was still to show that there's a difference between T_D and /pol/ since only the former condemned the attack.
you people fucking disgust me
ban me from these god forsaken forums forever
In the context of being a meme? Yes. Because there are lots of Ben Shap memes that have nothing to do with promoting his ideas, if anything, many of the memes related to him mock him.
In the context of promoting his politics/ideas? Giving him a "platform"? Hell no dude, did you even watch?
Calm down buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnsiZOJjfUg
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