[BREAKING] Livestreamed mass shooting in Christchurch Mosque, New Zealand - Sensationalist Headlines

Shapiro and everyone else like him could probably seem more legitimate if they proposed a solution to the problem. At least they would if it weren't for the fact this problem is what makes them money so providing actual solutions would be bad for them personally.

Honestly coming from someone with the name and avatar referencing one of the worst mass-killers in history, I'm not sure if you're really trying to be serious about blaming Pewdiepie for actively radicalizing people.

there's literally no difference between the two except for the minor decorum of condemning it, the magabomber was radicalized by fucking facebook, the ideology of hate is the same at all levels, if we got rid of pol like we got rid of the Daily Stormer, the hateful ideology would still spread. They all have blood on their hands and saying that you don't condone them won't stop future attacks from happening.

My point is that this difference is barely relevant on account of them being a breeding ground for the exact same sort of extremism, some of it within these "condemnations". I'm not stopping you from pointing out that difference, I'm stopping you from pointing it out unaccompanied by criticism

and so it starts again why don't these airhead thickskulled retards realize that shit like that just encourages more attacks.

The Donald is NOT better than pol, the only reason it appears as such is that upvote/downvote systems are skewing your view and t_d mods are quick to hide blatant shit because Reddit admins have been looking for a way to delete them without a martyrdom since 2016 You’ll find condemnation and downplaying on all 3 places, but the different mechanics of each site will give you a different look. For instance an OP on 4chan might praise the shooter and get dozens of replies ranging to agree to flaming negative, but all the replies bump that statement back to the front of the board

Well in my opinion T_D is not as bad as /pol/. Now, hear me out. On T_D, people still want to have serious conversations, and idiots who spout shit like "MAGA!!!!!" all day long are mostly ignored. Dialogue and criticism are actually encouraged, though they do tend to go in circles like you'd expect. It could be better, but it could be worse. On /pol/ you can just whatever bullshit you want and say things like "i miss gassing the kikes, race war when?" and some if not most people will take it seriously.

I never even disagreed with the first observation, what I thought was unwarranted was making it without any accompanying criticism, I didn't expect you'd go into an even more unwarranted defense of T_D. Open to dialogue and criticism? Are you serious? By what insane standards?

You pretty much echoed shit that keeps me up at night, I have a couple friends I feel are in similar boats as yours. I unfortunately haven't come up with any answers for those questions, nor a way to approach the topic with them in a way that isn't insulting or angry. It really doesn't help that any political discussion with them these last couple years has been (I feel) incredibly dishonest, and I would often be flatly dismissed or shouted down. The particular topics were ultimately pretty fucking petty, which makes the whole thing hurt even more because what the fuck was the point? I don't know why, maybe it's out of fear for what I might think, maybe they've been convinced by some assclown on the internet not to trust "leftists" and I happen to fall in that massive dragnet, maybe i'm the ass of a big goddamn joke, I don't know and I don't feel they're honest with me about a lot of things. I often fear for their state of mind and well being when these kinds of things happen, or other hyperpartisan geopolitical happenings. And it makes me feel like shit that I even have these concerns with such longtime friends, and I don't know what to do.

I saw this recent article by the blogger Mark Manson which was recently posted, and kinda touches upon how to get people to challenge their perceptions: "Who the Fuck Am I?" Skip down to around the middle of the page at the part where it talks about the Black KKK Member TED Talk (the "How to reinvent yourself" section). Below is perhaps one of the most inspiring TED Talks I’ve ever come across. It’s not filled with mind-blowing ideas. You’re not going to get huge takeaways that you can immediately run off and implement in your own life. The guy isn’t even that great of a speaker. But what he describes is absolutely profound: Daryl Davis is a black musician who has traveled and played blues shows all over the US south. In his career, he’s inevitably run into a number of white supremacists. And rather than fight them or argue with them, he chose to do something unexpected: he’s befriended them. This might sound insane. And maybe it is. But here’s what’s more insane: he’s convinced over 200 KKK members to give up their robes. Here’s what most people don’t get about value change: you can’t argue someone out of their values. You can’t shame them into valuing something different (shaming them actually often has the opposite effect—they double down). The article goes on after that with more elaboration, but you can read the rest there.

By internet standards. Take that as you will. I do not want to be defending T_D, but we're comparing it to /pol/ here.

Can't we all just get along?

Top guns pump says 'knock knock!'

Just took a look at 8chan pol. This site should be treated like an ISIS propaganda site. Could not give a shit if there are "some good boards" on there or whatever, raid the servers and shut it down.

Just found this: (mods, if this ain't appropriate, just delet this post) https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1383/c8687f62-1ba5-4ea6-a951-0cf9ff22368f/1552692609666.jpg

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/b1hjtn/rwatchpeopledie_has_been_banned_please_discuss/ A bunch of subreddits got banned. From what I can tell they were sharing the manifesto around.

yeah but the_d when

Can Reddit also ban r/The_Donald for being a recruiting tool for Charlottesville too, while we're at it??

I literally do not care one single tiny slight bit about the other boards that would be lost if 8chan and 4chan were to be raided and shutdown. I've been on Facepunch for 11 years, but if there was a board on here where terrorist propaganda was allowed to be openly posted like what I just saw on /pol/, I'd support the authorities shutting this site down as well, and it would be the site admins' fault for choosing to allow that kind of shit to be hosted on their servers. The chan sites don't get a law-proof shield just because they also feature non-terrorism-promoting boards alongside the bad ones

I feel like every time reddit purge some degenerate subs, they always king cunt of the arsehole kingdom, the donald. Either it's a honeypot for the FBI or the mods there have blackmail material on the admins.

I believe there was also a slogan on one of the weapons which said “traps aren’t gay”.

You wouldn't push for more moderation? You wouldn't push for deleting that subsection? You would just jump straight to wanting deletion for the entire Facepunch website?

If the mods were letting them do whatever they wanted and were even in on it, we would be completely fucked and the world would be better off without this site. The FP we know would be gone anyway and filled with nasty, worthless pieces of shit who use the site for evil. The good posters would be pushed out and purged over time and there would be nothing left worth saving in the end.

The meme wars were predicted over 20 years ago. No morals and lost men following ideologies of pointless hateful memes = this shit.

Reddit is a for profit company and getting visits from both sides of the political spectrum is just good buisness. It's the same reason why Facebook's crackdown on alt-right extremism is meh at best. Also it would attract a lot of uncomforatble attention, its been known people part of the Trump admin post and visit it regularly. Not that I am defending the donald or their right to exist.

You are confusing the rules of a subforum with the rules of the website as a whole, your prediction reads like a melodramatic fanfiction, and your overall assertions are false in several ways. Mods have different rules for different sections. Content that flies on some areas would not fly on others. So no, they wouldn't be letting them do whatever they want site-wide. Why is this important? Because it highlights the localized nature of the issue. FP would not be filled or overwhelmed with "evil", just like 4chan hasn't. Clearly you, like many others, get your image of 4chan from tabloid headlines, but most of the site in terms of overall board count is not tolerating of such evils by it's mod team or users. Good posters would not be "purged". Just like how FP continued to exist despite the existence of OIFY, 4chan and the many boards that are totally fine are not negatively influenced by the existence of the negative boards, by and large. Clearly you don't have enough familiarity to determine what is "worth saving". If you haven't gathered by now, the entire rest of the fucking site is worth saving, and you don't have to delete the entire site to produce results, because: Like the deletion of OIFY after it became too troublesome, aftereffects were minimal and now are imperceptible in comparison to the "normal" levels of shitposts on this site. And like the deletion of OIFY, 4chan can happily exist without /pol/.

I guess we'll have to wait and see if /pol/ will be removed then.

Im sorry but does the flashlight say "Crab Rave"

Yeah, I think it has a strobe function

Too little, too late. The time to push for better moderation or deleting a small part of a website is before it embroils itself in a mass shooting, not after.