Watching porn online is about to become more difficult - but no one appears to r
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Labour didn't even object to the porn block, as far as I can tell.
you and me brother, we can take down the government
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Do you exclusively watch your porn in 4k?
Considering how much time some people spend making incredibly vast ad block lists, I imagine it'll be quite effective.
On one hand porn is bad for you, but on the other hand I think the government are going about this the completely wrong way and it's a bad omen for things to come. It's way too controlling and there's much better ways of handling this sort of thing. Don't routers have options for filtering out adult content?
Why is porn bad for you? Its just something to slap your junk to.
Varies between 0.3-10 GB
Only a few 4K
Porn itself isn't bad. A porn addiction & reliance on it to form how you view sexual interactions is where it becomes unhealthy, but you can become addicted to almost anything and have equally damaging effects as a result, so to narrow it down to 'porn bad' is silly.
It gives younger people silly standards and expectations of what it's like in real life and it can be addictive for some which has a variety of problems.
I mean once in a while is probably fine, but for children/teens it's really not something they should actually be looking at for the most part since it can warp their minds a bit.
I suppose we should ban Iron Man as well then, since it's not a realistic depiction of engineering.
Maybe Persona as well, since it's not a realistic depiction of school life.
Maybe CoD too, since it's not a realistic depiction of being in the military.
Maybe art in general. They tend to exaggerate things.
The solution to that isn't banning porn or restricting access to it. It's improving sex ed in schools so it covers healthy and unhealthy relationships, how to have the former and how to identify and avoid the latter.
Banning porn isn't a solution to the problem of "porn sets unrealistic standards", since it just makes it something that kids are going to want to get their hands on all the more. The solution to that is giving kids the intellectual toolset to identify that porn isn't setting realistic standards in terms of sex, that it is actually an aesthetic experience for the viewer's pleasure rather than the participants.
Not to get TMI, but I'm willing to bet my life that there are plenty of people on this very forum that use(d) porn as an outlet from relatively younger years and haven't turned into sexual deviants that don't understand how real relationships work. There's a reason people that treat porn as fact are viewed as being weird - it isn't the norm. Your vague approach to the dangers of porn could be applied to television and films, which definitely don't portray aspects of life in the most genuine light. I mean, it's a god damn meme at this point about the ludicrousness of porn - pizza delivers will not accept sex as payment, and that guy really has come over to fix your actual pipes.
This puritan approach is so vague in its "think of the kids" message that you can apply it to most things. Like I said in an earlier post, you can't try and restrict something simply because 'it's addictive sometimes, therefore bad' because people can be addicted to all sorts of things, with all sorts of subsequent effects. Spending money can be an addiction, if not more often than porn, and that's just as accessible to teenagers.
Perhaps the education system was different for you and I, but we had lessons that explicitly told us "Porn isn't reality. It's as manufactured as television shows", and that in itself was the school acknowledging that if porn exists, teenagers are gonna watch it. Porn is not the problem. Just throw kids into some sex education classes and reassure them that their step-sister is not going to be up for that; it's genuinely that simple.
Hey kid! Do you want a cheap porn license? I have any fetish that you wish. Don't tell anyone where you get it.
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a good tl;dr using my own take
The bigger issue is not so much banning porn in and of itself, the issue is banning anything like porn at all.
State control of the internet is a threat to how the internet works.
Parents should grow the fuck up and act responsible about their children
You can never destroy the thing that made me who I am today
A fucking degenerate
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So we sharing porn stash size now?
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This is one of those things that everyone likes to pretend to be for (virtue-signaling?), but is actually like "oh god, no, not my porn."
Like, you can't tell me the people passing this don't watch porn.
Holy shit British and American politics is just a game of conservative chicken
America: *Elects Trump*
Britain: HAHA U FOKN WANKA
Britain: *Brexit*
Britain: fokn ell
America: YEEHAW YA LIMEY IDIOT
America: *134th Mass shooting of January happens*
America: Dag nabbit
Britain: BLUDDY EL U KNOB HAHAHAH
Britain: *Bans porn*
Britain: Bollocks
America: YIPPEE KI YAY U DUMMY
America: *Dies of disease treatable since 1850 due to lack of access to healthcare*
America: what in tarnation...
etc. etc. etc.
Right lads. I'm going to need to see all of these stashes myself. Entirely professional of course. We can't be having you distributing anything without an age gate on it after all.
Form an orderly queue and I'll deal with you one by one.
An age-check requirement applies to any website or other online platform that provides pornography "on a commercial basis" to people in the UK.
So if it isn't sold, then you're fine right?
Like there seems to be so many loopholes and such, I'm betting it will only effect paid sites based in the UK.
It can be quite addictive; there's a rising number of people who can be diagnosed with Porn Addiction.
and game addiction, and social media addiction, and food addiction
literally any activity that you enjoy can become an addiction, this is not an argument that enjoyable things are dangerous
This sounds like a great time to start up a VPN provider, if only I had the capital.
Oh, we have a picky client. Don't worry, I have some good licenses here too, but they gonna cost you kid.
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The more concerning thing is it's not really about protecting kids, but being lobbied by some of the more bigger giants in the pornographic / media industry to bring about these barriers (cash schemes) in the first place. The main porn block guys are a group called MindGeek, they own the majority of websites like PornHub and has - quite handily - prepared itself to start selling this crazy ID cards via it's website AgeID. You are basically giving your personal data to this porn monopoly via giving them over precious information (drivers license, birth certificate, emails and so on), who seem to be quite onboard (pushing) the UK government to do it in the first place, as are others; got to make some money after all. AgeID has outright said there is a market of 25+ million Britons who will sign up for it's age verification system who will want to access porn on the internet:
Its system will require individuals to create an account with their email and password and then upload a passport or driving licence, which will be verified by a third party. If they do not feel comfortable doing this, they can present themselves in person with appropriate ID at a newsagent to buy a so-called “porn pass” for £4.99 per device, with the owner of the shop verifying the age of the purchaser.
Basically this is very dangerous, Tories have kept this hidden under Brexit fallout and snuck it through. They're using porn as a discussion because no one really wants to argue publically why they want to be able to jack-it freely -- but it sets a very bad precedent for future blocks and gatekeeping the internet via ID's, passes and so on. We have seen such shifts with the recent porn ban on Tumblr, and if this works in the UK it will travel across Europe and maybe even the U.S. If it makes money for big industry of course, I'm sure America's internet providers would love the idea of blocking content and selling you passes.
Conveniently however this block will avoid things like Twitter that have pornographic material on it. Mainly because that would probably cause a massive riot. Oh, and politicians use it.
I would argue those are all far more connected in scope, alongside Porn, in how they're designed to keep us interested against classical addictions which often have an outside chemical component.
Its reductionist to compare 3 other incredibly recent addictions that are all connected with the same kinds of UI, Online Systems, Interactivity and Skinner Box designs versus something like Alcohol or Cigarettes. In fact, if you look at the symptoms and connections of those to something like Gambling addiction, you'll quickly realize that this is a very different beast.
However this is an argument for another time.
my friend is a nofap guy and unironically thinks this is great
I'm celibate and this is a retarded ban. Let people jerk it.
after the ban i can finally start my nofap journey, learn to fly and vibrate through walls
he thinks porn destroys your brain and busting a nut rewires your dopamine circuits. the logical conclusion, if you let this go far enough, is you becoming a sick pervert who cannot leave the house without nutting multiple times.
thankfully he doesn't believe the superpowers stuff.
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