• Obsidian's "The Outer Worlds" spotted on Epic Game Store
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Can't you get it in the Windows Store?
I thought that was windows 10 only?
vote with your wallet if you say "well i dont like this store but i really want to play this game" what the publishers will hear is "we got money this is fine lets do it again"
I understand this, and have been pretty good at sticking to my guns on this sort of thing in the past. That's what makes me hate the situation so much, this is the kind of game I have wanted to see more of for years, and was ready to wholeheartedly encourage by voting with my wallet- and now it's tied in with a practice I want to actively discourage. Ultimately whether I decide to buy it or not this whole fiasco is going to sour what should have been my favourite kind of game. Either I'm going to feel shitty about supporting a practice that pisses me off, or I'm going to wait a year and get the experience ruined by recommended youtube videos with dead characters in the thumbnails and titles like 10 THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE OUTER WORLDS SECRET ENDING WHERE THIS CHARACTER FUCKING DIES.
oh I didn't realize how many times corporations had ultimately done things for my benefit! Why is it that I'm so inconvenienced and feel like they're exploiting me constantly then?
It has a shopping cart.
Ok, there's so much wrong with this post. First of all; you're using the exact same analogy as before. The platforms are free. Nobody has to send their games in for paid repair. They are fundamentally different examples. Cool, sure, not relevant at all. You're still comparing apples to oranges, because you'd need to BUY A PHONE to change your options in this theoretical market. In the market we're actually talking about, you need to download a client which costs no money and consumed no physical space whatsoever. This analogy would only be the same if Epic was selling Epic PCs which you can only use to play Epic games. PS- Google and Apple have literally tons of apps on each of their respective phone stores which are exclusive to their platforms. Both the google an apple apps perform differently on different devices. Your opinion on this one actually doesn't matter at all. It's not for you to say what devs do and don't want or need from the market, nor is it your place to say how much value Steam is actually bringing to the table for devs. There have been polls done where the majority of devs actually don't think the value steam is bringing to the table is worth it. 30% is an ENORMOUS chunk of revenue, and steam doesn't really do anything with the money to enhance the developer experience. They have several sunk-cost features, but that's pretty much it. This is 100% speculation based on literally nothing. The running costs of steam are nowhere near 30% of revenue from titles, steam's just being greedy as fuck. 30% is the same figure that monolithic stores with no competition whatsoever charge, like Google play and the Apple store, and even those have extremely advanced and integrated data-driven advertisement services which steam lacks. The revenue cut platforms take from games, upfront cash bonuses for signing trade agreements, and any other value delivered by publisher, or platform are all identical. Developers are vendors who need to secure a marketplace to sell their goods. You can think of storefronts as consumers (they literally are), and they bring value through exposure, while the developers bring value through content. It's not greedy for developers to try to get as much money as they can for their hard work, it's just common sense.
this is kindergarden levels of justifcation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E34Syv0VRrU
hot take: it's getting pretty obvious no-one else in the games industry likes valve anymore and this has been pre-planned by microsoft and epic so one can be the bad guy (with fortnite backup) while the other also has all the "exclusive" titles, thus leading people in droves into microsoft's store page, the one they tried to launch before that got gutted by steam's market share.
The only thing that bother me way too much with Epic Game is the Spywares stuff, like stealing the login token of steam and stuff...
I'm just never going to get this game. I'm not going to reward devs, even in a year, for making a selfish, anti-consumer decision
Forgive me for singling you out, but a lot of people in this thread have stated that they will pirate the game. I understand everyone's moral objection to buying this from the EGS and I myself find it increadibly anti-consumer but in my opinion if you're just going to pirate the game you aren't really making a stand against this. To keep in line with your morals that means at some points you need to make sacrafices, that would mean in this case sacraficing your ability to play the game. But if you instead decide to pirate it you're not making a sacrafice at all, you are essentially only keeping to your morals whenever it is convenient for you. Of course I do not know if everyone here would theoretically not play the game at all if you for some reason could not pirate it, but it really does come of as I object to this only if there is another way to circumvent whatever the issue is. I urge everyone who doesn't want to buy this game due to Epic's practices to do exactly that and make a sacrafice by skipping out on this game.
If you're pirating a game that you were never going to buy in the first place then it's a victimless crime, I don't think any less of anyone who decides to engage in piracy in this situation if it's either that or don't play at all. At the end of the day if you were never going to buy it in the first place then pirating it makes no difference to anyone but yourself.
Oppressed gamers rise up
What i'd love to see and i feel like would be a big shift right now would be if a big name like CDPR right now released CP2077 on every platform EXCEPT EGS. I feel like that'd send a good message.
The game is also on Windows Store if you don't want it on the Epic launcher.
To be honest I would buy it on Windows Store if Microsoft didn't start to treat Russians like shit by removing regional pricing, switching prices to USD and disabling ability to buy xbox live subscription online.
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