Obsidian's "The Outer Worlds" spotted on Epic Game Store
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I honestly hope that Valve punish the publishers/developers that use Steam as a marketing platform. In this point I don't care if Valve removes the games from the store entirely, if you really hate Steam that much, keep your game elsewhere. Making a exclusivity deal after you promoted the game on Steam is the scummiest shit that you can do.
"Bu-but the revenue share! Think on these poor developers!". Nobody is thinking about us, the consumers. How I am suppose to feel happy about a publisher/developer that treat like shit their consumers?
After all the anti-consumer shit that Epic pulled off, spying my Steam folders, and doing these """competition moves""", you can shove you store in your ass Epic Games. You killed Unreal Tournament for this shit Tim, you must be very proud of yourself.
On the plus side this might book valve back into action and make them stop being so damn lazy. Start making their own games again and not selling them on epic store
I suspect at some point Valve is going to put their foot down and refuse to allow games to advertise themselves with their platform until they've got a contract in place to sell on Steam.
Fuck Epic Games
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Valve isn't gonna do jack shit lol
Also 2 wrongs don't make a right
Man the gaming industry just flat out fucking sucks. The Outer Worlds is exactly the kind of game I want to see more of and would be glad to encourage with my support- but now It's caught up in a practice I'm utterly against encouraging with my support.
Also Epic can seriously just fuck off, an exclusivity deal on a game where the main appeal is it's narrative, means late adopters are likely going to have the whole thing spoiled for them if they try to just wait out the exclusivity period.
Valve probably gonna make that if you want to publish your game on Steam, you need to release the game on the same date that any other store. If you feel that this is unfair to developers/publishers, you can blame Epic. I don't really want to Valve do any harm to anyone, but what alternative exists?
Obsidian right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AafYtcDlBdw
I have a horrible feeling that steam's only response is going to be buying exclusivity deals of their own.
Because if there's one aspect of console gaming that I wanted to see come to PC- it was definitely various companies squabbling over who gets certain titles on their platform.
It's not wrong.
Don't fucking trick a platform into giving you free advertising when you know you don't intend on selling through that platform.
I can't help but feel that not having such "gems" as "My First Game Maker Platformer", "*sexy term here* Generic Puzzle" and other low effort indie games taking up digital shelf space is an unfortunate factor too.
Honestly, I think that as soon as you advertise/pre-sell on Steam (or any other storefront), you should be forced sell on Steam. Unless something happens that's out of anyone's control (e.g. game gets cancelled).
Don't worry. I'm sure we'll get some sob story in a couple of days or so about how they fully intended to sell on Steam up until very recently and that this is the right move for everyone involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWRlxSGf_ns
Yar Har Fiddle Dee Dee~
It's not a punishment.
The developers have destroyed any business relationship they had with valve by tricking them into providing extremely valuable advertising and then at the last minute pulling a bait and switch.
This is going to harm their relationship with valve and they have only themselves to blame.
You think? Watch as Karma don't exist and they get away with it, scot-free. Vote with your wallet, uh? Not when there's millions of kid voting with their instead and showing that everything is the same and the epic game store will still get exclusive, and they'll also benefit from a steam release 1 year afterward.
Not everything have a "good ending" "karma hit them back" and I believe the Epic Game Store is here to stay, even thought we all hate it to death.
I've never had any problem finding what I wanted on Steam. The fact they have so much garbage is a testament to how open they are as a platform to accepting games. I'm fine with garbage games because Steam has actual reviews and ratings that I can look at to determine if a game is worth my time or not. Epic has no reviews or ratings. Epic barely has a working search function. Steam has an excellent variety of titles unlike Epic, who only wants the next big thing. I'd rather sift through muck and find a rare gem then suck Epic's dick.
Truly the entirety of the Monkey's Paw has curled so far into itself it's sticking out the back of its own wrist.
Steam has a GDC talk tomorrow (don't think it'll be streamed tho), let us wait and see what they have to say.
Good point there. It did slip my mind that a true good store accommodates all tastes rather the just what seems hot.
The real question is what can Valve do about it? Blacklist them and grant epic full exclusivity? Start moneyhatting too and make this the accepted norm ala consoles?
Valve has already started to backtrack on consumer first features like the ability to review bomb a game for eula or drm reasons, so this could very well be a race to the bottom which almost seems like the intended consequence of epic's actions.
Don't get me wrong, Steam does need some better quality control. There's a lot they can improve on with the store, but so far Steam is just more user friendly than Epic. Also I apologize if my post sounded mean, this sort of stuff just really fires my blood.
Ohh I absolutely bet this is the intention of several people involved in the process. Force the standards to plummet so they can get away with murder and leave consumers with no recourse.
There's a genuinely baffling double-standard when it comes to Steam/EGS.
If you actually compare what Steam provides to both consumers and developers, it is so far beyond what Epic provides.
Epic hosts games, poorly. Steam hosts games, and through its additional services, EMPOWERS them. THAT is where the 30% comes from.
When Steam has an issue, it's "the issue". No other benefits of Steam apparently justify "the issue", whatever "the issue" is at the time.
With Epic, despite the fact that they are completely failing to provide anything similar to Steam in terms of a service, we're expected to just ignore that in favor of... what, exactly?
Why is it irrelevant how EGS fucking sucks as a platform for consumers? Why is it fair to bring up issues with Steam, yet not with EGS?
Great, now the console practice of exclusives has made its way to PC. Mainstream gaming fucking sucks.
To add to this, here's Epic's roadmap of development. I don't find it inspiring Epic will improve their services to the benefit of their end users if something as simple as a shopping cart is in the 6 months+ category.
My own fucking website has had a shopping cart since I was seventeen years old.
We don't have billions of dollars.
We're comparing the products now.
You're also not factoring in where STEAM will be in the future. You're giving Epic all the time in the world to change before you criticize them, but you assume Steam will remain frozen in time while Epic does this shit.
Yeah you don't just get to "change your mind" and that is justification for something????
"I agreed to have a baby with you and share responsibility, and then I changed my mind!"
I understand your anger but comparing a purchasable product to a baby is a little weird.
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