• Dad Forces Son to Smash PS4 With Rock Due to Bad Grades
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i really don't think smashing a video game equates to real trauma. some kids don't get to own a nice shiny playstation or live in a big house and dad has a muscle car. he will probably get a new state of the art machine this xmas anyway. for me, he should earn his PS4.
So you're telling me you wouldn't get traumatized in any way if your dad or other relative decided to destroy whatever possession you greatly valued?
Curious what you think "real trauma" is, you don't need to get punched or phsyically abused for it you leave you emotionally scared. I've been the vicitim of shitty parenting, from being punched in the face or left in the garage when I was two. From my personal experience this stuff can fuck you up.
I know you're joking, but I do worry that a lot of people would look at this whole incident under the "gamers rise up" lens and beat the oppression drum louder. --- More generally, I don't even care that it's a game system. Doesn't matter what it is. You don't do this to a kid. You don't publicly shame them, you don't destroy their possessions, you certainly don't force them to destroy their possessions - this is all stuff we should've left back in the 1700s with the Puritans as examples of humanity in its more disgraceful moments. Like a parent beating their kid because "hitting is how you turn a bad boy into a good boy", this is just primitive, lazy parenting designed to sate the parent's ego as much as it is meant to make the kid fear them, because it certainly won't make the kid respect them. Getting a power trip and making yourself feel like a big strong man because you're abusing someone who you ostensibly have authority over and can't defend themselves - and how ingrained it's become in our culture that this is what you're supposed to do because "mah daddy did it to me and his daddy did it to him" - it's goddamn neanderthal behavior is what it is. It's base, it's contemptible.
If I lived nearby I'd slash that dad's tires
not when the dad is the one who purchased it.
I didn't say breaking it was an alternative, now did I? I merely stated a fact, which is something I, personally, did when things were taken away from me as a punishment. I saw it, not as a penalty, but as a challenge. My parents very quickly learned that there's nowhere in the house they could hide anything where I wouldn't find it and stopped bothering to take things away entirely, they just found alternates.
why are you curious what I think when you have been through real trauma? there is a difference between true abuse and a dad destroying an inanimate object he bought.
You don't seem to understand children very well. Seeing as how all of their possessions are typically bought by their parents, it's a bit unreasonable to expect kids not to greatly value their possessions regardless. Like every single other human being in the world, children tend to have emotions, though lack the brain power to understand them. Hence, a kid might get REALLY REALLY attached to their video game console, and forcing them to smash it to pieces MIGHT be considered a bit fucked.
Punishment is necessary to set boundaries. The method of punishment is what can be positive or negative. Without punishment, we get entitled little cumrags running around expecting everyone else to bend to their whimsy.
That's bad parenting. I mean, no offense to you or your parents - but they gave up in trying to teach you basic respect for property when they 'found alternatives.'
the only lasting trauma this kid will have is knowing he was in a viral video, not that his playstation was destroyed. if a child becomes "REALLY REALLY" attached to a video game console that their entire emotional output goes towards it, that is more fucked in itself and they need to reassess their lives.
Uhh, no. They found alternatives that actually worked when they realized that I'd just turn the house inside out to reclaim the toy they took away. Either that, or I'd just shrug and focus on something else entirely. They took my RCs? I'd play with my legos for a while instead, no skin off my back. Take those away? Oh, hey, I have enough hotwheels to keep a small army of kids occupied for god knows how long. Take those away, too? Well fuck, I was able to amuse myself for hours on end out in the back yard frisbeeing twigs around. Take every toy in my posession away and I'll just go make one out of something nature decided to drop in the yard the night before. And it worked, because I don't have any issues with basic respect for property as an adult. I don't smash shit unless I bought it specifically for purpose(IE FRAM oil filters for a trip to the firing range or a frangible car made out of tin foil or something like that), I don't steal shit, I don't vandalize people's shit, et-al. Taking things away isn't the only method around. You need to get it out of your head that the only 'acceptable' punishment is taking things away. What my parents found most effective was groundings, because I couldn't exactly sneakily subvert those like I could things being taken away. Not living out here in the sticks where my friends were over a mile away, anyway.
Bro a child can become really really attached to a fucking teddy bear. This is generally seen as regular child-like behavioral that they will grow out of. A child having passions is not an illness. A child channeling all of their emotional energy into that passion is not an illness That's being a kid, dude.
all these people lecturing about "bad parenting", "you don't know anything about children". do you actually raise kids or is this from a textbook?
i think you're totally missing the point. the playstation is like a toy. imagine your dad coming over and smashing your favourite toy. the whole 'it's just plastic' doesn't mean shit, you can reduce anything down to it's chemical makeup. it's a parent smashing something that their kid loves to play with. i genuinely still remember when a kid broke my batmobile toy. i was shattered. i still remember that feeling, and the name of the kid who did it. fuck you, tyler. rather than looking at it with the bizarre perspective of removing any emotion from it, which is not realistic, especially for a young child, you could realise that it's an act of betrayal meant to instill fear from the father. punishing someone by destroying something they love (to play with) is a fucked up thing to teach a child. i would genuinely probably resent my parents to this day if they did something like this (and probably do, for other reasons), because they're not just destroying some plastic I like. they are betraying me, asserting their dominance through brute force, and instilling fear in me. none of this shit is healthy.
Way to make your son resent you, dumbass.
i'm sorry but i don't think this is a valid point. a teddy bear is a comfort/security item. a ps4 is a computer. you can argue that any child having an attachment to an item is reasonable, but an emotional attachment to a box?
??? It doesn't matter what it is. Kids are gonna become attached to their toys. You, yourself, literally cannot state what is and isn't okay for a child to enjoy. It's not your place. You can't really make the argument that every single toy is a 'comfort/security item(???)' either. I sure as hell didn't feel secure in my toys as a kid. I just liked to play with them.
Yes? Why not?
One of my favorite toys as a young child was a scrap flexplate off a 460cid V8 my dad was working on at the time. Damn thing weighed more than I did and I'm honestly surprised I kept all my toes, but I loved that thing to death. For a couple years. Then forgot completely about it when I was 5 and we moved from AZ to TN. Why did 3 year old me play with a scrap flexplate? Fucked if I know! But I chose it and had way more fun than I ought to have had with it. Kids are irrational creatures on the best of days.
I'm grateful this thread hasn't been flooded with the usual survivorship bias bullshit about punishing children. On the whole, I'm growing so tired of how much shit is recorded these days. Why did this need to be recorded? Yes, add public shaming on top of the shitty parenting. What a wonderful way to make your son hate you.
yes it is, i am the dad.
No, it is shitty fucking parenting. In the new video, the child is sporting a hoodie that says “Eat, Sleep, Fortnite, Repeat” and is seen to be in visual distress as his father records the video. Tre, who had warned his child about being punished for bad grades,  It is pretty dysfunctional and shitty for him as a parent to handle the issue this way. You praise in public and you correct in private. You don't post it on youtube so you can win some swagdad points. Maybe address the issues you have and take away the playstation, but to make the kid destroy something that is meaningful to him and put it on youtube?
Don't have to be a chef. Although I assume some are arguing from textbook experience, firsthand or secondhand. I distinctly recall learning from what psychology I did learn that positive reinforcement is the proper way to train someone (or an animal). Punishing someone for an act won't necessarily get them to stop doing the act - just to try harder to hide doing the act. Certainly not getting them to do something unrelated to the punishment. ...a box is a type of item though???????? And a variety of fictional, interactive worlds - often with social interaction between other actual human beings - vs a stuffed animal. hmm Trying to dictate what your kid does and does not enjoy is not good parenting. It's not supportive, it's not loving, it's not teaching good behavior, it's just trying to control them, use them, and live vicariously through them.
there is no textbook or amount of data to explain good parenting. it may explain the relationship the child has with his dad, which can easily be repaired once he gives in and buys a new xbox. (how sad is that)
Why does it matter if whether people saying this have actually raised kids or just got it from a textbook. I’ve done neither, and yet I still know it’s not okay to make your kid destroy one of their possessions as punishment, film it, then put the whole thing on the Internet.
Destroying the kid's playstation is horrible planning. Uploading a video of it, embarassing him in front of the world for some something as little as bad grades and making him become a bully target at school is just straight up abuse. The dad couldve, ya know, take it away and sat his dumb ass down and help his son with his homework. Chances are his grades are impacted by lackluster public education system and shitty parenting and overall whatever environment hes growing up in which I doubt is good if this guys is his dad.
The only upside to assholes like this posting videos of their abuse is it makes it easier to report them to CPS. Seriously, I'm not surprised the kid isn't doing well at school with someone like this for a dad. Imagine having that as your primary caregiver and rolemodel.
What gets me is that when I was younger my parents would hide my xbox controllers if I was acting bad. Can't play games on the xbox without a controller, right? Smashing stuff is just silly because if you smash a 300-400$ worth of electronics then you just pissed away 400$ you spent.
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