Dad Forces Son to Smash PS4 With Rock Due to Bad Grades - Sensationalist Headlines

I agree that it shouldn't have been recorded, but the public isn't exactly shaming the kid... https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/188/a0b20e36-02e6-4948-a6a2-3e53e20a8362/Screen Shot 2019-04-04 at 8.21.15 PM.png

errr... are you reading what you've written?

I was only kidding with this. But a ps4, no matter how many flying saucers and flashing lights it produces through a television set, is not that important in a child's coming of age. as i said, exceptions can be made in certain circumstances but if the entire emotional output of a child goes toward a game... I just don't forgive that.

Were your born this fucking stupid or are you trying really, really hard?

this fundamentally makes no sense. there is no difference between a teddy bear and a ps4 in the eyes of a child. you are arbitrarily assigning different values to objects. it doesn't matter what the thing is - it's an outlet. one childs saving the galaxy as master chief is another childs teddy or tonka truck. it's the same thing. imagine you have a favourite movie to watch as a kid. it comforts you, you love the characters, it makes you feel safe. dad says you spend too much time watching it, he destroys it in front of you. can you not see how damaging this is fundamentally

but it's a disc but in seriousness some exceptions can be made, like you said "if the child only feels safe when playing the video game to escape" like if he/she is in a broken home then yes. But I really doubt this is the case in this scenario.

Rusty100 posted an entire paragraph of well-reasoned logic, and this is what you responded with Once more, it doesn't matter how you experienced trauma. It doesn't matter what you think is okay for a kid to play with. It doesn't matter what exceptions you can kindly make. What everyone else is telling you - you know, the general consensus - is simply that it's not wrong for a kid to have an emotional investment in a games console. Because kids pour emotional investment into tonnes of pointless crap. It's not wrong or inherently unhealthy. It's part of how we grow and develop.

that wasn't an experience of trauma though. I think people are way too sensitive in each aspect of a kid's upbringing. If they get upset over every tiny minuscule thing, is it reasonable to keep mollycoddling them through life because that's not really how it works when you grow up.

so not destroying your childs possessions is mollycoddling. gotcha. lets absolutely not look into alternative methods of raising a child other than through a little bit of fear & destruction. sweet.

If my dad uploaded a video of him disciplining me and made it a viral video, which would obviously be watched by alot of students at my school, I would probably end up a delinquent who thinks my dad is a dumb asshole who I shouldnt respect but avoid.

It's still public shaming though because the intent is to shame the kid, and put it out into the public for all to see. Whether or not the public actually does shame the kid is irrelevant.

that's where I have issue, the dad making a video and public shaming is really abusive. but the computer console being broken is such a small portion of the issue, if it wasn't filmed this entire event would be forgotten in a week and everyone gets on with their lives.

Punishment is a tool, not a crutch. There is also a such thing as a balance. People have already pointed out that there are dozens of other (better) ways to discipline a child, and have explained why this method is highly flawed at best. It doesn't take a whole lot to view this objectively and conclude that it could have been handled much differently for several tangible reasons.

Good god how can you be this completely out of touch? If my father had done this I'd have been terrified when I was a kid because my father was not just a shit parent but an abusive pile of trash. (Between him and my first stepfather I still subconsciously avoid dealing with my current stepfather despite getting along with him quite well, for example.) Your personal anecdotes do not equate to everyone's personal anecdotes. And your personal anecdotes certainly don't negate the general consensus amongst sociologists and psychologists that this sort of parenting only exacerbates problems rather than solving them.

but they are slightly different. i am more in tune with a kid being addicted to playing with toy soldiers than crying over a video game.

Are you illiterate or just playing stupid? It's pretty obvious that putting forth my own personal anecdote was an example of why you putting your own anecdote forth as the end-all be-all argument was fucking retarded. Christ sake, why are you incapable of proper debate?

what if then the kid actually turns over good grades and gets a new xbox? from the video I really don't see a torture situation or broken home, I don't know the circumstance of that family but it really isn't a big deal from this point of view.

I don't think smashing an expensive piece of hardware is going to teach him anything. This is like burning down someone's house and being like "Bruh you can just get a new one!"

Look, whether or not what’s being done here is traumatizing, I think we can all agree that the Dad filming his Kid destroy the PS4 as punishment, then putting said video online is an incredibly shitty thing to do.

You were presenting it as if your own personal anecdote was an authoritative claim that would dictate everyone's own experiences and that anyone who disagrees was being oversensitive. Don't try to pretend like you were never putting it forth as an actual argument here. And that's where you're wrong. Public shaming is going to be traumatic. But depending on the individual the actual act of breaking the Playstation could be traumatic itself. You're trying to force everyone into one box where there is zero variance but you flat out cannot do that. Everyone's family life is different.

there is no difference. a toy and a video game fulfill the same purpose.

You put it in the boot of your car.

public shaming is objectively incorrect there's no question with that. but what makes this one individual circumstance where his dad smashes his ps3 ultimately incorrect. if his brother is filming and his mother is agreeing with what is happening, are there real causes for concern with that specific action? everyone's family life is different. not every method is objectively going to work for their individual lifestyle, and we might perceive a box destruction as traumatic which it really isn't, but for them it is simply another day another lesson.

Eeeeeh; I'd argue modern games have far more bells and whistles, especially the big heavy hitters with intentionally addictive design in lootboxes and FOMO. You have a toy soldier, really the sky's the limit.

So it's okay because those around them are agreeing with it? That's some uh... Shaky logic to say the least.

it suggests the household is stable and not a violent torture chamber.

So according to Ak'z this is fine https://youtu.be/4dGFXN0lxFs?t=174

according to you part 4 is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXfoyrKLlUQ

Nah. This is fake and the father is paying his son to participate and cry fake tears.

someone already posted the daddyofive stuff but seriously, what were you thinking with this