Dad Forces Son to Smash PS4 With Rock Due to Bad Grades - Sensationalist Headlines

I said they fill the same purpose, not that they are identical outputs - but also, at their core, action figures and toys are just as carefully marketed to manipulate children. Spiderman figures? Pokemon cards? Pogs? Collect them all! Buy the whole set! Buy boosters, even though you might not get what you want! Video games take this to an extreme that crosses a line for sure, but the principals were already there for toys and cards.

Oh I was being specific with the Army men.

action man is interchangeable with a barbie or any other toy, they all have intentionally manipulative marketing to get kids keep buying them, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, which is betraying a child's trust by destroying the toys they love and instilling fear in a child.

Just like how if there's a group of 4 people making fun of a 5th, and the 5th is crying but the other 4 aren't, that means it's completely fine. It's not bullying if the people doing it aren't upset! Also, again, "it's just a box" isn't a valid argument. You're severely downplaying what it is. It's like saying "it's just cotton" about burning a kid's favorite stuffed animal in front of them.

knex is better. or meccano

why. can you explain this. they're both filling an emotional and entertainment void. they are all things a child plays with and loves. controlling a man on the screen with a controller is no different than controlling an army man figure with your hands. ones just a bit flashier. both require a lot of imagination. think back to the games you played as a kid, and then look at them now. your brain as a child fills in so much more detail than is actually there. in my head the graphics of shitty dos games were amazing and their worlds were so much bigger. so don't use imagination as a reason they're different.

I actually don't understand why you think this, you haven't really explained.

a toy you can hold is no realer than images on a screen you can interact with, or even one you can't interact with like a film. your argument doesn't make sense.

Yes actually?

you keep putting random objects in place of the ps4. also you really think the video games he plays are challenging his intuition or developing mind like a movie? it's not realistic to put them together. sure it is part of growing up but i highly doubt he has actual affection towards a man doing actions from pressing buttons. halo was not that deep..

because they're all interchangeable. they're filling the same purpose. i don't understand why you view video games as separate to... anything else. for some reason anything else could be interchangeable, except video games. it doesn't make sense. it also doesn't matter how the game is developing his mind or challenging his intuition. that has nothing to do with a parent betraying your trust and being destructive. you are missing the point, forever and ever. are you saying someone who grew up with halo doesn't have an affection for the game/series??? it doesn't matter how deep it was. just that you loved it. why are you conflating with 'something that helps development' with 'something a child loves and is important to them'. you can love anything. and you can be really hurt if a parent destroys it, whatever it was. kids love completely inanimate things like blankets, so of course they can form a connection with moving images. which again, is still a different issue. destroying a childs property, regardless of their emotional connection to it, is not okay. it's a bad lesson to teach and means they will trust you less. you coach good behavior with good behavior. not destruction. destroying a childs belonings will never be productive or positive.

i'm just not onboard with supposed objective sermon on raising children. depriving child of ps4 = negative making child work to earn a £400+ console = negative making child study = negative maybe we need the child's consent to stop playing this "wonderful, amazing ps4 experience" so they can pass school? we can imagine ourselves to be expert coaches but in practice, mollycoddling will only last so long.

Seems to me that all this does is make the kid feel way more isolated and alone

kids learning by example is a massive reason though.

"It's not a torture chamber if people nearby are complicit" o k

Thanks dad, now my grades are bad AND I hate you

I never would've guessed

I legitimately cannot imagine any movie that would challenge a developing mind like an average AAA game experience. I'm not even praising games when I say this. Objectively, video games just require more from the brain than a movie does? Especially when you're a child, and you're the target demographic of some pretty awful movies.

I'm late into this conversation, I'll tell you my own perspective and experiences. Here's the jeetz, Around my family there's a lot of kids. I might be the youngest in my relative family, but in my extended family i'm far from that so as such i grew up with kids way younger than me. Having seen and understood the quirks that goes into the minds of a child. They aren't stupid and hella they aren't forgetful and a lot of things can influence them, either negatively and positively, Rambling aside. What purpose does this video have to send or message? Allowing to teach your child that your possessions are temporary and that your rewards can easily be taken from you by the same breath? I understand the idea of instilling punishments and understanding that bad behaviours will only lead to bad consequences but when then punishment far outweighs the bad tact or behaviour. This only scars the influenced minds into a darker place, even more so at a phase between the end of childhood and the middle of teenhood. Landing on the source, What the father did just for bad grades wasn't only a negative experience for the child, it was financial mistake and worst of all, a parental mistake that he will never be able to fix with his son in the future. This might get a bit personal but you should never put something that your child sees high value as example that you are giving them a "tough time" Destroying the memories and methods to his joy will only grow the child with resentment and base his thoughts less on community and more on individual views bubbling the child into his adulthood. "But what if the child isn't listening?" Isn't it obvious? Just confiscate and make the possession more like a reward, It allows them to understand that what they hold has Value and make them appreciate it a lot more in the long run, oh and it being a lesser financial risk on your wallets. (I saw this in a earlier comment, just reiterating for an example) To wrap up, Mentally abusing your child and berating them to destroy what they see as valuable isn't just scaring, it's potentially life changing to them. It's fine to give your child a tough time when absolutely necessary, but Psychically and or Mentally pushing them won't do you much for them to learn that their actions will echo. By being respectful to those you care and seeing them eye to eye, you learn to appreciate the growth we go though everyday as a child and as a adult. TL;DR Don't be a dick to kids and be a good influence to them.

no you're right, there is clear evidence of abuse, he probably gets whipped every day. at the end of the day, we are depriving a boy of video games. if the dad sold it and the owners then smashed it, whats the difference? he will be "mentally scarred" and his relationship is ruined forever? you have no perspective as to what family life is in that home so getting this upset over a small punishment about a computer game is unfeasable. the only issue of concern is that he shares this publicly and humiliates him. but behind closed doors this punishment is as mentally scarring as buying a kid the wrong xmas present.

What if the kid is really dumb and can't get good grades no matter how hard he tries?

he will just buy him a new one what's the issue? he will get enough ad revenue from selling this to the news anyway.

hey, freud, do you mind posting a scan of your doctorate degree real quick cuz you seem to know an awful lot about adolescent developmental psychology and i just wanna make sure you actually know what you're talking about or if you're just pulling shit out of your ass based on irrelevant personal anecdotes haha silly I know but for real are you actually this dense?

PTSD from depriving a child of his ps4.. what about if his dad took the kid hunting. that is more traumatic psychologically than smashing a box but i guess it's socially acceptable..

I know this is an entirely different discussion but I do like to believe that games can contribute to your general knowledge and mind building, of course everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. But over all the years that I played games, I usually researched different themes and backgrounds, almost anything. Especially historical games. Of course Fortnite might not contribute as much to your average general knowledge but it still develops quick decision making and the like. Not sure if it's really that black and white when it comes to video games.

could just quote me next time instead of dodging a reply and no, the PTSD would not derive from the preprivation of the ps4 itself, it'd be from the parental abuse of being forced to, by an authoritative figure, to destroy a possession you hold valuable. the teddy-bear comparison was made before but flew right over your head; the likeness is if a parent told a kid to rip their teddy-bear to shreds. the criteria for post traumatic stress disorder as outlined by the dsm-5 are as follow - i'll mark the valid criteria for you, doc! (at least 1) Criteria A; stressor when a person is exposed to a trauma, it is usually through at least one of the following factors direct exposure (yes) witnessing the trauma (yes) learning that a relative or close friend was exposed to trauma (no) indirect exposure to aversive details of the trauma, usually in the course of professional duties (no) (at least 1) Criteria B; intrusion symptoms a person who has experienced criteria A can typically re-experience the event or feel affected by it in at least one of the following ways unwanted/upsetting memories (yes) nightmares (??) flashbacks (??) emotional distress after exposure to reminders (possibly) physical reactivity after exposure to reminders (unlikely) (this one is tricky because we can't know if the kid will have nightmares or feel distress from triggers, but it's possible) - regardless, Criteria B only requires one set) (at least 2) Criteria C; negative alterations in cognition/mood negative thoughts/feelings that start or get worse after trauma in at least two of the following ways: inability to recall key feautures of trauma (repressal) (unlikely) overly negative thoughts and assumptions about oneself/the world (likely) exaggerated blame of self or others for causing trauma (likely) negative affect (most definetely) decreased interest in activities (most definetely) feeling isolated (abso-fuckin-lutely) difficulty experiencing positive affect (likely) just like Criteria B hard to tell since we'd need to see a longer post-video mood of the kid, but given how trauma tends to work (yes, no matter the size), a lot of Criteria C is more than likely applicable Criteria E is when you step into the real heavy type of PTSD that usually only applies to sexual assault victims & war veterans, so due to leniance the dsm-5 doesn't require them but they still add to diagnosis so I won't list them fully - nonetheless it's irritability, aggression, risky/destructive behavior, hypervigilance, heightened startle reaction, difficulty concentrating & sleeping. some of these might apply, like irritability/aggression due to resentment, but yeah Criteria F requires the symptoms to be present for more than 1 month, which is more than likely as parental resentment from trauma tends to be pretty lifelong no matter the size Criteria G requires functional significance like distress or impairment in social/occupational skills which is pretty much an extension of all the previous criterias, so it applies here too Criteria H is exclusion which means none of the previous symptoms can be the result of medication, substance or illness.

Imagine he got that for his Bday, then say months later he has to break his own present. Do you know how Demoralizing that is. What you thought was a great gift and you parent spits in your face practically an tells you to get rid of it.

The dad purchased it as a gift for his son. A gift. That means its the child's posession now. If i bought you a gift and went nvm lol I'm gonna destroy it, give it back to me. You'd be reasonably pissed too.

will any of that deep analysis matter when his dad buys him a new one?

yes, yes it will, because now you've rooted the lasting anxiety that "if I do something wrong, my dad will take away what I love again". he will carry that anxiety with him and eventually repress it, only for it to surface at other points in his life unconsciously.