Dad Forces Son to Smash PS4 With Rock Due to Bad Grades - Sensationalist Headlines

Yes, because a figure as a child you trust and feel safe with (father), basically betrayed your trust and forced you to destroy something you love. Of course it would matter when he gets "a new one", the child would no longer feel safe, and would be afraid of the next time he'd be forced to destroy something he loves.

ak'z, rather than even just trusting us, you could ask any trained psychologist. they will tell you the exact same thing we've been trying to! that children can form attachments to anything, and making them destroy that thing is extremely damaging. it is very, very simple.

yeah dude my dad made me destroy my ps4 every day this kid should quit being such a weenie

Holy fuck dude

for me, that's kind of sad that you'd end contact with your father over a pc. maybe i'm weird and don't have this emotional attachment to objects like others. i remember my ipod and gameboy getting stolen and i didnt care much.

Never understood why you think physically destroying property/getting mad at inanimate objects is a good thing to show your kids. I always thought it was ridiculous when my dad got angry at things he was trying to fix. I ended up working at a hardware store and approached broken machines with patience, not anger, like all the older dudes had a tendency to. Lo and behold, I got things fixed quicker, and customers appreciated talking to a relaxed/level-headed service provider. I'm sure anyone who works with computers has realized that it's usually better to not get angry at the machine, and you generally get problems solved quicker with a calm attitude.

I don't even really understand the point you're trying to make here.

I honestly have no concept of the argument, or point, you're trying to convey. Okay, you personally don't have those attachments. As a child, there was a lot of times were my parents told me X, and did Y. This caused me to distrust them, and caused me to rebel, and do my own thing every fucking time, because I didn't trust them to do X. They kept doing this, and kept getting mad at me, wondering why I would rebel against them or do things they didn't want, or even do things I said I wasn't going to do. As a screaming and angry 16 year old who was salient enough to point out "you and dad don't fucking follow through", they finally fucking got it. But you know what? It's too late. I already have inherint trust issues I have very little intentional control over. I don't trust people. I'm almost fucking 30, and I have perpetual issues with trusting those around me. It's annoying as fuck to live with, and causes me issues, and it's something I have to work on, daily. My mom acknowledges that her behaviour fucked me up as a kid, and she's apologized. The fact you can't see that how parents raise their kids effects who the fuck they are as adults is sad dude. I don't care that you wouldn't cut contact over something, people aren't even talking about the OBJECT but the symbolism of the actions, what they represent. You seem to be ignorant of that whole side of this discussion.

This is abusive behavior.

As a person that was severely abused in childhood, the games were something that let me unwind and forget the constant stress and fear i felt. Considering that kid misbehaves (stealing), has bad grades and spends lots of time on console instead of hanging out with friends, he's more than likely getting bullied. It takes no rocket scientist to realize that in such situation a child would form emotional attachment to objects like these.

fucking what what he did there is halfway to the kid telling him in his face he hates him and will never forgive him, if not doing something even worse, like flipping out and taking a jab at his dad doing shit like this is borderline edgy parenting, "hey I'm gonna make my kid break his favourite things because of bad grades and I'm gonna put it on youtube, look at how much of stern cunt I am" And you know what's gonna happen now? Betting someone is gonna feel real bad for the kid, and will probably take a hammer to the Challenger in the driveway.

Bet you are the kind of sick fuck who enjoys seeing kids emotionally fucked with.

how the hell do you get your shit stolen and not care about it? and its not over a PC It's about how you treat your kid. What you make him do.

No? But hey, points for baseless assumptions!

My mom smashed my NES with a hammer in front of me when I was little because I was misbehaving. It was my favorite thing in the world and she destroyed it to make a point. I still remember exactly where each of us were standing, the look on her face, the sound of the shattering plastic, me pleading with her not to, screaming at the top of my lungs and bursting into tears, the anguish I felt... You know what I've never been able to remember? Even days after it happened? What I did. Granted I was a lot younger than this guy was, maybe 4 or 5, but it's the clearest memory I have of my entire childhood and I've never been able to associate any of my own actions with the result, even when I try. It was about as ineffectual of a method of "teaching" as you could get.

You're so damaged it shows.

It's not, hunting is serious business but it is not traumatic provided the adult you're with isn't an idiot. I went hunting with my dad several times as a child and it's a surreal experience but It was in no way traumatic.

Why are you intentionally being this obtuse? What everyone is saying is what psychilogists universally agree on. Unless you want to completely reject psychology, you should consider that these arguments actually carry weight.

The difference is that a Teddy Bear, Army Man and physical items is that they're literally physical and you're free to do as you please with those toys from kitbashing to making the army man into a girl scout. Some games, like Minecraft, show that kind of potential but the vast majority do not afford that expansive of a depth of creativity which should be nourished and encouraged. Games don't really help with that; they help with critical thinking(read: some do) but very few actually help with that. I think of every game that has been released; only those with free and deep editing tools like Half Life/Little Big Planet/Minecraft/Dreams are few and far between. Games also keep kids indoors when they should be outdoors playing; I highly recommend reading about Adventure Parks which were literally just well planned scraps of wood and stuff that let kids build with discard construction materials. Its fascinating really.

hey guys look it's a thread that got to 5 pages in one day because of one idiot

sorry, but what the actual fuck are you talking about? you're literally just spewing horseshit from your mouth how is less than 0.01 seconds of input lag from pressing buttons on a controller going to impact a child controlling something on the screen vs fucking around with a toy physically? please tell me how moving a toy around and holding it requires much more thinking and visual/reading/listening comprehension, than controlling "those figures" in video games

What I'm talking about is the fact that you have far more control and autonomy with playing with physical objects in real life versus a constricted simulacrum designed for a specific purpose. That is the fucking difference between playing with a physical toy and playing a videogame; we don't have fully body VR and Immersion, or rather tricking ourselves into transporting ourselves into that position(instead of being fooled from the start) are all methods used to help alleviate the above.

That really doesn't change a thing for a kid. I had action figures, I also had video games. Guess what was infitely more entertaining for me, pesronally? Video games. I had a world in front of me with which to play with with it's rules. I could imagine a million things inside that world. Video games allowed my imagination to flourish. And you have nothing to back up that toys would be better at this then games, aside from your feelings. And the fact that you suggest we all collectively have a fucking mental handicap because we don't just agree with you, isn't a good reason to trust your argument. There is a difference, yes, but I think that difference differs per kid, per situation, and per toy in a lot of ways. Your hardline stance on this and inability to even contemplate another view is dumb.

My original fuckin' post and this one was that there was a difference. I never stated if either was better; the original was a neutral viewpoint of difference in how the interactivity of it changes the impact that is has on children. I never said one was better than the other; those were words forced down my throat. I said that kids do need to be outdoors; which they fuckin' do. Playing 1 to 2 hours of videogames have shown to have incredibly positive effects on children; I never once said that they were bad. And don't say that I implied it.

I hope you seriously never have kids.

I'm entirely done with this conversation; I made one post explaining how the nuanced differences are and I get attacked. I never made a definitive statement about which one has benefits over the other. Fuck off.

I'm not disputing kids should "go outside" and do things in the real world. I'm merely saying a kid can have an intense and serious relation to a digital medium due to their ability to become immersed more easily than an adult, for their imagination to take over the experience. I'm not trying to say you're saying games are bad for kids, or toys are better. I'm merely disputing your argument that toys are the best or easiest way for a kid to become immersed in a fictional reality.

My dispute is that there is a difference in approach and that overall videogames currently have a far more closed off garden of exploration for kids. I never meant to imply that toys are an easier way but they have a far greater potential. This coupled with the downsides of keeping a kid in front of screen after 3 hours actively hinders and stunts social growth as well as depth perception are serious concerns; videogames aren't bad but when binged they can be incredibly dangerous to the development of a child. IN addition; I made sure to note that there are games that do a fantastic job of breaking that current strangle by giving young children and adults incredibly powerful tools to explore and play beyond what the designers had in mind. Minecraft is a perfect example, but so is Little Big Planet and Dreams is shaping up to be a fantastic exploration as well. Children do approach play with toys and video games differently; but they both can be and are incredible tools of self expression.

there's more to life than a ps4

No one is saying the kids life revolves around the PS4. No one is saying it's okay for him to play the PS4 all day. You're being told that it's the general consensus in society that destroying your children's belongings with a rock as a form of punishment, or worse, making them do it, is utterly unacceptable parenting. Are you not reading that, or are you being intentionally obtuse, @AK'z ?