depends on where you work and the commute. My 50 hour week is really 60 because its an hour commute plus I'm expected to be there before my clock in time so I'm on the road an hour and a half before I'm supposed to clock in and with the lovely traffic I'm not home till an hour after work
I work two split 14hr shifts a week in a row and always have a thumping migraine the day after, like I'm hungover. But I only have to work a couple of days a week, then I get a nice chunk of time off. I can't bare working any more than 36hrs, I feel like anything over 36hrs and your ability to do your job right starts to plummet. Expecting double that? Fuck off to fuckville you fuck.
Today marks the end of my 68 hour work week and I'm working so much overtime just to be able to pay enough to my car to sell it so I can get in to something more reliable. This shit is unbearable and it blows my mind people used to be able to just work their 40 and have enough to pay towards their car/bills and still have some left over.
I fucking hate the work culture anywhere that thinks over 40 a week is just supposed to be normal now.
Work culture is ruthlessly anti-worker. 40 hours a week is considered bare minimum and you'll get looked down on for not doing overtime now and then. People trying to get you to stay an extra 10 or 15 minutes every day, overly policing break times, day-of schedule changes. Not to mention commuting, which turns a 40 hour week into realistically 50 if you're like me and commute at least an hour. This shit should not be considered normal, it's extremely unhealthy.
I have to wonder how productive and efficient this place actually is. I've heard plenty of stories where overworking your employees gets objectively worse returns, because tired workers work poorly and they'd rather stretch 6 hours of work to 12 hours of "work" than do 6 hours of work and then spend the rest trying to find random busywork to do.
for a supposedly communist country the chinese government doesnt care about workers rights, the wellbeing of the proletariat or all that standard stuff that comes with marxism
Yeah, while eBay and Amazon provide similar services to AliExpress and Taobao, the idea of an online non contact market for business to business trading is pretty antithetical to how a lot of American companies handle suppliers.
Business owner but its a week of work not just watching people work. I would never work this much for just wages.
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can't you find another job? is the economic situation in Portugal really that bad?
Prepare to work 12 hours a week
now excuse me as i delegate my work to someone else because i can
who fucking makes a person work 6 12's? Fucking disgusting
my boss dropped a hint to my HR to tell me that I should volunteer more for overtime, as if working overtime every day for the last 2 years, and saturdays for the last 2 months hasn't been enough of my time.
Instead of having these retardedly long hours it is objectively superior to have shorter but more intense hours instead. When employees are ultra busy with challenging tasks it does not even feel like work. It only feels like monotonous garbage if it's stretched over an obscenely long amount of time.
Where amazon is great is when they have something on this side of customs, but even then the bevy of business supply catalogues in the US is good enough for a lot of random small order stuff
Funny you should ask
That job that had the "4 by 4" thing of working 4 days 12 hours each and resting 4 with always rotating days (for example, there were times when you couldn't catch a single weekend with your family because 12 hours), changed into 8 hour shifts last february, with fixed schedules. I somehow got the short end of the stick and got fired because they couldn't find a position for me and a bunch of other people.
Kind of hurtful to be completely honest because I worked my ass off in a rather stressful environment of people shouting and wanting things right then and there, doing something that required a lot of care (namely PCB production, specificaly mainboards and GPS boards for BMW and Nissan), to sweat in a room filled to the brim with AC, to show that I could fucking do it and learn the stuff, and yet they "didn't remember me". This sounds weird, yes, anyone has the right to doubt this, but it is the truth.
To be completely fair, they did call me back two weeks after, even give me a choice about werther I wanted to work in the morning or the afternoon, but I didn't take it. I wanted something else that I had in mind for me and my gf that supposedly could be something for life (which I honestly doubted a lot but...), and that didn't go anywhere whatsoever either, so I kind of got fucked. On one side, I didn't want to go back to that PCB production company because it stressed the hell out of me because I wanted myself to be really good, but on the other, I kind of feel bad because I'd probably have a fixed place in there right now.
...A fixed place full of stress, sexism, bad coworkers, and like 10 meters worth of components like condensers that I had to be sure would never run out.
Now, I DID find a new job after that, inspecting and boxing plastic bottles. Started on monday, didn't go last friday, gonna announce that I quit next monday.
I feel bad for quiting, that really bothers me, but not nearly as bad as when I worked there.
Night schedule, midnight to 8am, so my sleep cycle was completely fucked
Ergonomics are nowhere to be found, so boxing the plastic bottles made me bend over just enough that after two days I felt so much pain that it felt like I had some fucking demon in my back and I just wanted to cough or even puke it out of me
Sleep cycle was fucked, so had to sleep during the day, which resulted in me sleeping till 4-5pm and losing a whole day, having an extremely bad mood towards everyone and just being a dick (I've been extremely pissed with work before, and I've never been this much of an asshole to the people here at home), and worse of all, I got a constant headache that lasted a whole week, never going away even after 5 or 6 aspirins. Headaches to me are the equivalent of limping a sports player, it just cuts all of my energy in half right then and there. I kind of even felt my body just not doing so well, not feeling as sturdy as before, as if it was gonna fail and pass out.
On top of that, the drive was 20 minutes, which is absolutely bad for the future because when I get a place of my own, its gonna have to be further away from it, the whole factory smelled of burnt plastic ( you wouldn't believe the ammount of plastic that small factory produces, its insane how the world isn't in an even worser place in terms of pollution) and that isn't good for your lungs I guess, noise is ATROCIOUS, you NEED earplugs or you'll go deaf in a short ammount of time, and a somewhat small complaint, its such a mindless job that, if you're the kind of person that likes to keep the mind going and do stuff that makes you think, you'll drive yourself crazy with such a monotunous, robotic job. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but goddamn was that mindless. My previous jobs needed a bit of attention and concentration, and that was rather good. Not here.
Wow, this got extremely long, and I forgot to say something that is probably the worst in all of this, that actually answers your question...
It depends.
If you don't have a viable degree that can afford you a good position in something, like engineering and such (and even then you might not be lucky enough to use it), you'll end up in a factory.
If you do have a degree that gets you a nice enough place, you'll probably have a good schedule, but it will probably still demand a good bit of extra hours every now and then.
If you end up being a factory worker just like I am, you'll be jumping through each of these temp job managing companies until you're lucky enough to be in a place that sees what you're worth of. Otherwise, you're pushed into the bane of schedules, that apparently every company now has, which is rotating shifts.
You like the morning shift? Too fucking bad, next week you're on the afternoon shift, and the week after you're on the night shift!
There are still good places here and there, but they're hard to get to.
Bosch was THE best place to be at. You had overtime and sometimes had to do saturdays, which sucked, but the shift schedule was perfect imo. 6am to 13:30pm? Perfect, whole afternoon, and cometh the weekend? It's like you have 3 days. 13:30pm to 21pm? Not bad either, you got the whole night to do whatever, and if you need to do something, you got the morning! Limitations here and there, but these schedules are fantastic imo.
Everything else seems to have godawful scheduling that doesn't works as well and just seems like a fucked up chore in comparison. And this is without mentioning rotating shifts. Whenever I think about those, I just imagine pure greed and something almost like slavery.
You almost can't have a personal life.
As far as I am aware, they're communist in name only. I'm convinced the government leaders are just megalomaniac sociopaths who enjoy toying around with their people.
ya when students actually were protesting for communist values they were swiftly disappeared
I work 40 a week as a software developer and I already feel like I am wasting my life
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