Twitch temp-bans white streamer after she used blackface in Apex Legends cosplay - Sensationalist Headlines

The fallacy in your question is that you think its a superficial characteristic to paint yourself black, and that in certain contexts it could be done tastefully. Maybe in 200 years when race isn't a determining factor in whether you're going to have your life taken from you by police or live in poverty but this 21st century America where dressing up and playing "pretend black person lol" isn't appropriate in any context.

i dunno i think the dudes post got poorly represented here, hes kinda right. even if she was doing it in good faith, the public perception right now is obviously gonna latch on to this kind of shit. I'm not saying she deserves to be labelled as a racist but you need to be careful now more than ever how you present yourself online, for better or worse.

You're simply asserting that attempting to look like another race without ill intent is inherently bad without any argument as to why.

Hmm, an american who can't fathom another country having a different social context it's like the statistics are true, americans don't leave the US, and thus don't have a very good idea of how the rest of the world acts or functions or feels about anything. Stop being american centric.

Of course it's a bad idea, but that has no bearing on whether it was a morally wrong thing for them to do. It's a bad idea because idiots are going to latch onto it solely because of its superficial qualities. That doesn't make the idiots right, it just means you need to be aware of them before you do shit.

I lived in Hong Kong and traveled in Asia for a year but cool. Racism is a global issue and if you want to be famous you have to be aware of the social contexts that go into interacting with your global audience.

guess she's also discriminating against redheads, right? tell me one reason for why she shouldn't be allowed to portrait herself as a character who happens to be of another race as long as she doesn't add any REAL racist features. why are people acting like being black is the one thing that defines a character? that seems pretty racist by itself

it's hard to exist Online without knowing why this was a bad idea, regardless of where you're from. it may be amplified in the United States specifically but people have been talking down on blackface of all kinds since forever. dumb cosplay.

Cool that you have traveled, but still think the american view has to be applied everywhere. Racism is a global issue, but acting as if simply painting your face is the racism is the problem, and it's stupid to focus on when there's more important parts of the discussion.

you can cosplay as a colored person and just not artificially color your skin, plenty of white cosplayers do this, and cosplayers who are POC do this when cosplaying white characters in fact, the vast majority of the cosplaying community already knows this and does this

You all pretend like their is no historical context to dressing in black face as a white person and its dishonest as fuck. Stop throwing up these weak straw men and just go watch a documentary on the history of black face. Or better yet, go talk to a god damn black person for once in your life and maybe get their opinion about it. "Nebulous Rule #1" - maybe not a good idea to dress as a caricature of a ethnicity that is systematically oppressed in many parts of the world. Its fucking simple, stop acting like this is some kind of slippery slope nonsense where evenually no one will be able to do cosplay anymore because "everything is offensive".

Not a caricature. It's not a slippery slope, you already can't cosplay as a black person. Where would the slope lead to anyway? What do you even mean to convey with this argument?

are you looking at the same photo as everyone else? how the fuck is that a caricature

I love how you cannot fathom a different view point existing in an informed person. Im informed, I have a different conclusion to you. Does that make you want to fight or something? You act like it.

One thing that is worth mentioning that is generally overlooked because it's not well known to westerners is that in Eastern Europe cosplay culture is a bit odd.Right now it's mostly visible from Russia, but they tend to influence the rest of us in one way or another. Mainly the fact that a lot of cosplayers value it being as canon as possible to the original. That means stunts like this are viewed as acceptable if a bit uncommon. I'm not interested in making excuses for what she did, since I can see why people are offended by it and I can hardly blame them. But I want to point out that it genuinely comes from a place where no harm was meant from that girl. That being said, the sanctity of canon in the Eastern European cosplay community has led to some really bad abuse running wild because a cosplayer deviated from that character in some minor way or another. And even worse if you dare cosplay as someone who isn't your race.

That's the aim of all cosplay globally. Source: am a cosplayer

Yes, but I assume you don't send death threats to fellow cosplayers for not putting on something that can be viewed as blackface.

If you think this is racist, you're more emotional than you are logical.

That's way too dark to be "just spray tan" like people are saying. It's really far too dark to be accidental. I just can't buy that as a reason.

People always say shit like this and it's always something that caused controversy when it happened Nationwide ‘Thunder’ Boycott in the Works New Film Tests Crudity’s Limits Blackface, once made taboo, has returned

Imagine getting butthurt over a girl that cosplays a fictional character which happens to be not her "race" Twitch staff (and some people here) needs a reality check

Hell they'd probably have banned her for whitewashing if she didn't do this anyway.

The issue is that many countries still look down on Africans in general; just look at how Japan and China. They both been caught using blackface in the Minstril show sense; and many major European powers had colonies in Africa where they routinely mocked and attacked those they subjugated. Lithuania however? Shit dude, they had their own issues with the Soviets and then the Nazies and then the Soviets again.

You have a steep mountain to climb. You can start with learning about Context. Then move onto "Crying racism where none exists makes people a lot less likely to listen to real accusations of racism" ... Finally learn you are wrong.

I don’t think people are saying there aren’t racial issues in other countries, but rather certain things that imply racism in America (ie blackface) might not have been a thing in Lithuania. It doesnt mean there aren’t culturtal taboos in regards to black people, but it would manifest in a different way.

So cosplaying to a different race, is racism now? Isn't banning that is racism instead? I am so confused.

This has neither the looks of a traditional Blackface (usually a lot darker so the white in the eyes pop and big red lips) nor the intention or acting associated with it. She also painted basically half her body to fit the character/cosplay. Don't understand how people classify any form painting your skin darker is basically blackface, when actual racist blackface pretty much always comes with any of the 3 things what I listed first.

There was no intent to harm or to mock, and it's an effort to have it as close to the actual character as much as possible. I can understand how people can call it blackface but I really don't think it is. Like is it yellowface when a black guy voices a Japanese samurai in a cartoon? Or is it blackface when a white guy voices a black guy in a video game? Are we mocking white people when an Asian voices a white guy? If the portrayal and the character itself is displayed without any ill intent and is played straight on how the character is written and directed, then I don't see any racism behind it. What if the fictional character had deep black skin or any fantastical color? Is it blackface because the fictional character of a fictional race has an unusual color?

You've completely missed why the original idea of black face was bad. Historical black face was done to literally make fun of black people and depict them as idiots. It wasn't the painting their skin that was the bad part but the actual context of why they were doing it. Her costume doesn't even look like historical black face. I don't see how a (honestly kind of bad) spray tan is somehow insulting black people any more than dying your hair is trivialising the value of other hair colours. This is just people getting upset over nothing to show how "woke" they are.

How is this blackface? Isn't Lifeline an asian character even? Why is it wrong to cosplay as a race different than your own? So many questions...