• Texas man defends home against 5 armed intruders using AK-type rifle
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HOUSTON -- Authorities are investigating after dozens of shots were fired in east Houston.  According to a detective, the incident began as a home invasion at the 7000 block of Sherman.  Authorities say the homeowner defended himself when the suspects entered the home. Following the shooting, the suspects fled from the scene. Authorities say that out of five people shot, three of them died. All were suspects in the alleged home invasion.   5 shot, 3 killed after homeowner opens fire on suspects during a.. The homeowner, who later realized he was familiar with multiple men involved in the incident, was not hurt. Texas homeowner, 20, shoots and kills three men and injures two .. Posting this because I commonly see people question the utility of semi automatic rifles as home defense tools. This is a rare nightmare scenario but it does happen and this guy would probably be dead if he wasn't armed.
*fully semi automatic rifles.
That's the right amount of semi-automatic.
They're absolutely valid. They're also absolutely the result of escalating bullshit factors. Most of the world's population that are allowed to house and thus do, don't have shit like this occurring on a regular basis, save America and Russia, and in Russia you have an asston of paperwork and testing to go through, and you can't have a burst weapon.
All things considered, this guy is probably gonna walk. I don't doubt that some scumfucks are gonna try to take revenge for this though.
I wonder how much remodeling he'll have to do after that gunfight
Not much. Just Spackle and paint along with replacing anything else hit by bullets. Exterior would probably need new siding or holes filled.
I'm kind of nitpicking here and I apologize if I'm being overly wordy, but owning a burst fire weapon in the US is prohibitively difficult and expensive. It's akin to buying a brand new car that you can't take out of the state without going through the registration process again (assuming it's legal in the state you're transferring it to), only a select few are legal to own for law abiding citizens and registering it and transferring it takes upwards of 6-8 months or more to accomplish. Due to this, legally registered full-automatic and burst-fire weapons are a non-issue when it comes to gun crime so I don't see the point in bringing it up, especially considering it's irrelevant to the context of this article considering the home owner used a semi-automatic firearm that isn't special in the way it operates compared to any other semi-automatic firearm.
I doubt it because of this: The homeowner, who later realized he was familiar with multiple men involved in the incident, was not hurt.
If anything, this would be even more reason for revenge.
"Oh shit that man killed 3 of our homies, we better not fuck with him and his fully loaded AK47"
This sounds suspect — the guy knows them. They are trying to rob him because he has “money and jewelry” and the 20 year old guy has a fully loaded AK47 next to him. Sounds like some gang shit rather than “some rando home owner protecting his wife and children” like article is spinning it as.
And yet a powerful pistol like the S&W 45mm handgun could have done the same job and MORE and the states aren't putting arbitrary bans on them or its attachments.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Anti-tank_gun_45mm_m1937_parola_1.jpg 45mm
The remaining two living suspects are in custody, by the way.
45mm I mean if the burglars broke into your house in a Panzer II, sure. A bit over kill though don't you think? https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109898/e52a05e6-7443-4e89-85b0-7aff500d236a/253px-Anti-tank_gun_45mm_m1937_parola_5.jpg
is this you? https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/227087/4b3ade63-e644-484b-a3df-034c54f27d9c/2rAfQW6.png
Whilst I don't question the utility of guns as home defence tools, I don't think anecdotes are a good way to analyse the benefits of guns used in this way. Guns being in the victim's possession can also lead to escalation of violence and further injury, so it's a mixed bag at best.
If I lived in America I'd prefer to have the option of arming myself than not. Granted, escalation of violence and all that, but if someone's rolling up on you with a gun, it's reasonable, if not the best bet to assume it's not going to be good for you if you just let them use it for whatever they plan.
Gang related or not this still proves that one man with a gun can hold his ground against many. Its a good tool for defense. Sure, this situation is rare to happen outside of the world of gangs, but its possible.
hey if you can grab it with one hand and shoot it, why not?
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I always see people saying that gun owners are just WAITING for people to try, and I'm sure there are a few and people definitely fantasize, but I think for most normal people gun or not, having people invade your home is absolutely terrifying. You don't know if they're armed and you don't know their intentions.
He'll have to book another dinner for 3 then.
Grenadiac's point was home defense, and you final sentence there is literal semantics of which you have not the faintest clue as you weren't there and neither was I, but from the description it sounds like ammo amount was absolutely a deciding factor in him not being dead, and again the pros and cons are equally salient in that the person lives in Houston and not Zimbabwe; so yeah you're definitely nitpicking for no real practical ramifications. He was defending his home and life, not ballistically landscaping his neighbor's yard. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400816351507382283/567732313283100685/IMG_20190416_091358.jpg
http://oldbritishguns.com/images/stories/news/resized5.jpg originals of these are not even considered firearms
That's a Panzer IV, not a Tiger. I think most 45mm pieces were used as anti-tank guns with AP ammunition though. Explosive rounds below 75mm seem underwhelming anyways.
A large proportion of home invasions are done by people you know - because those people often know what you have and where you have it. I think if this was gang shit they’d have been expecting him to be armed and the police would probably be investigating deeper. At 20 I had an AR15 (among other guns) and quite a bit of cash and jewelry just from wheeling and dealing in the antiques world. I’m not saying rule out gang shit totally but it’s not that hard to believe otherwise.
The intruders had five arms?! Holy molly how terrifying!
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