• China releases new rules on game approvals
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-games-idUSKCN1RW07F?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5cbae7f616ce3f0001419528&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Rwq23peXLDRGquE_j7BtUwI8EMHSIalEKlm0UpiPKauZlycztsq0zQNI
can you block your country from playing with the rest of the world please that'd be great
"core social values" yeah that just means pro-china censorship, and complications mean that any publisher wishing to enter their market most likely have to consult juggernauts such as Tencent and Netease.
"Every game in which Chinese tanks are available such as World of Tanks and War Thunder now must include Chinese students as the sole opposing force whose powerful weapon of standing in the way shall be met with an ungodly hail of gunfire."
Can't wait for western developers to censor themselves so they can release their games in China.
wait for what, they've been doing it for three years already.
I'm pretty sure that's already happening. I remember games like Dota 2 featuring different models cause China are scared of spooky skeletons and so on.
True, it's already happening, but its only going to get worse.
finally
At this rate, I just would not bother with releasing games in China. Sure, that would piss off people who just want to play and that it would isolate the Chinese market. But is censoring your game worth it for more money, some might say it is worth it but I don't think so.
I'm actually kind of surprised they don't already. Aren't they afraid of "western propaganda" or whatever? Maybe we all need to switch to Winnie the Pooh avatars and talk in Chinese about how Taiwan is #1 (and independent)
china is an absolutely fuckhuge market, thats throwing away enormous amounts of cash
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cant be afraid of western propaganda if theyre the one in charge of our propaganda and media. they're just going to force their worldview on everyone until it's so rammed down our throats that any actual dissidents will suffer consequences.
It's not worth it.
To us it isn't. Shareholders may think otherwise though.
Video games that feature Chinese tanks must not under any circumstance allow foreign tanks - especially Japanese tanks - to be able to inflict damage to them or otherwise place the Chinese tanks in such a position where they would not be the best option in that video game. This is to be evaluated by the Chinese Ethics Committee in accordance to core Chinese values and technical advice provided by the PLA. This clause extends to other Chinese military assets including but not limited to; firearms, naval vessels and planes. 很好! We hope the very kind developers of the West adhere to these reasonable rules provided by the glorious leaders of the great and powerful 中國!
I think it is pretty naive to believe that missing out on 41% of the worldwide video game market revenue is "not worth it". China gamers' spending power EXCEEDS that of US.
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and that sucks the biggest chode. Sucks how much control people who don't even care about video games have in this industry, in a lot of industries honestly.
Trust me theses rules will be a huge deal in developpement, when some western AAA games made >90% of their revenue in China. It's genuinely concerning - not that the representation was great before, but anything with lgbt characters will be immediatly refused I imagine, any adult themes like sex. Hopefully many studios will just ignore theses rules, but they probably can only afford it if their audience isnt majority chinese. The sheer number of chinese gamers can make or break a game viability.
Seriously, fuck China.
Learned on PUBG that "Taiwan is a free country" can get some angry chinese words flying your way. 台湾是一个自由的国家 "Taiwan she yagutsa yoga go cha" :^)
To be honest, I would not give a fuck about missing out on that money. Fuck China and everything it stands for. If I were a Game Developer, as long as people enjoy playing my games then I've achieved my goal. And if I happen to make some money whilst doing it, then that would be a nice bonus. I know that my view point and opinions might seem optimistic and naive, but why shouldn't I try and strive for what I believe in. It sucks that this probably can only apply to indie devs who will most likely have more control over their game. As most modern game devs will most likely not as much control over their game as they'll have publishers and shareholders that they'll have to please, which means that they can't afford to miss out on the Chinese market.
The only was that would be a problem would be if western companies suddenly got even greedier.
Anyone here trying to be optimistic about the complicitness of AAA Western developers is forgettiing rule #1 of capitalism is "profit at any cost".
Big companies will claim to be for progressive values and diverse representation until China makes rules against those things. Then they'll bend over backwards for whatever source of income is the largest. Remember, most corporations don't have values, they just say whatever they think will make them the most money.
Big corporations claim to be a lot of things while simultaneously not being any of them. Boeing has been pushing the aerospace industry on things like certification, FOD and quality, yet they don't play by the same rules because they're the top of the entire industry. corporations will only ever go so far to implement their values before some manager or accountant pulls back because it might compromise their schedules or profit and its never challenged until something catastrophic happens.
Finding out someone's true motivations is simply a matter of ignoring what they're saying and looking at what they're doing. The silver lining to all of this is that we're going to get to see in the not too distant future what each game dev's words are worth. If studios want to develop separate products or versions for each market, all power to them. If they try to bring the PRC's demands as a blanket standard to the western market, then they get to lose out on our business.
I'm not well informed on the matter but are developers/publishers designing games with the Chinese market in mind from the outset or is it still mostly a case of modifying the game afterwards?
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