• Youtuber Projared is accused of cheating on his wife before filing for divorce.
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The only correct answer is neither him nor his mistress are in the right, and the rest of the people are victims.
Not entirely convinced to be honest. Just because somebody is open about some of the skeletons in their closet, doesn't mean they can't have more/worse skeletons in the back. Sometimes people are open about some of this stuff specifically to distract from some worse shit. It's better to say you can never really be sure than to over complicate things trying to figure out who is 'safe'.
You're trying to win a fight that you have neither the right nor opportunity to actually win.
Probably everyone involved with him was a victim of an evil man which was the point I was trying to make that you for some reason had a problem with. ok
Except for the one that knew all parties involed in real life and demonstrably slept with someone they knew was married. Why is this a difficult concept? There's a big difference between willing participant in home wrecking and internet victim.
Yeah, like a prolonged period of time to be manipulative and increased exposure to the manipulative person. We don't know enough to judge the other people, but we do know Jared is manipulative and creepy as fuck. What are you not understanding about 'manipulator'.
The part where I already proved to you she knew he was married regardless of anything he could have said to her to manipulate her?
Bonus option DLC: one can simultaneously be both a victim and a victimiser.
Just because she knew he was already married doesn't mean he didn't manipulate her. There is evidence both that she was vulnerable and that she was told that their relationship was over. You are taking an excruciatingly juvenile and underdeveloped position. The 16 year old girl also knew about his wife are, you going to call her a homewrecker too? I'm taking this position because you're judging someone who's the likely target of a manipulator and I think that's just gross behavior
And defending someone who willingly slept with someone else's husband isn't? If I were you, I'd hide these posts. No? How can I call a clear victim that doesn't even know him in real life that?
You're advocating an angle you have less than no evidence for, with evidence to the contrary in fact, and can only dwell in the realm of hypotheticals and appeals to emotion. "She might have been a victim.", "You're blaming a potential victim." , and similar remarks. When all of your claims have to be qualified by creating a fantasy around them, you don't have a solid argument. And that's why you don't have a right to a win, you're just trying to steal one with dishonest arguing.
I'm living in a reality where we are missing information about what has happened and therefore should act as such instead of saying you have enough information to pass a judgement. The only person who's verified as being a shit person is Jared. You might not like it but it's fucking asinine to jump to conclusions, especially when you're dealing with people in complicated relationships with a manipulative pedophile.
Actually, I changed my mind and I think you might have inadvertently proven SKS' point there, because if ProJared can convince someone that his nude blog was a "body-positive space" after already telling them it was an ironic joke, then his manipulation powers are clearly supernatural in origin. I suspect steaking him through the heart will return Holly to normal.
I see what you're getting at, and I'm afraid if we strike him down he'll become more powerful than we can possibly imagine. From what I've read of Heidi's tweets, it sounds to me like she was trying so hard to hold on to her relationship that she inadvertently failed to see the signs, which certainly gave Jared some power over her.
Yes, welcome to my point. Being a harmless manipulator with superpowers doesn't suddenly make someone divorce their husband, move away, and then sleep with their friend's husband behind her back for a year.
Holy shit it's worse than I thought.
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Man that fucked me up when Mumkey said he cheated on Sheepover. She seems like a really great person and obviously Mumkey's going through some shit but still
ProJailed
So all furries are degenerate pedophiles by your assumption? Classy.
Just saying SKS, you still haven't actually posted the mythical evidence that she was told the relationship was over, saying there's evidence then refusing to actually post it is sus as fuck.
it looks like everyone who’s wrong just has aphasia, that explains a lot You don’t need superpowers to do all that. You just need to be a manipulator. you’ve moved your goalposts so far now you actually agree with most of my position, congratulations. I never said that what happened was okay. What you were expressing earlier was clearly not disappointment, and you would be a flat out liar if you said it was. You literally called her a ‘home wrecker’.
SKS posted: The only person who's verified as being a shit person is Jared. You might not like it but it's fucking asinine to jump to conclusions, Adorable Yes, she's a home wrecker. I have not backed away from that nor will I. How did you arbitrarily decide I walked that back by explaining my position differently to you? I am running out of ways to say the same thing. As I said before, given your post history I am convinced you aren't here to argue about anything in good faith.
It's quite funny how you dodge a simple request to post evidence that you say you have.
I literally posted it earlier, hence aphasia being ‘disappointed in someone’ isn’t the same thing as thinking they’re a home wrecker, a home wrecker is the person who wrecked the home, which is Jared. the rest of your post really speaks for itself.
Simply saying that evidence exist does not prove that it exists, mr ad hominem. You're literally using the same logic as antivaxxers. And no, you did not "literally post it earlier", you've never posted direct links to the evidence that you've claimed, only saying that "Tweets from Heidi said that he told her his relationship was ending.", "There's evidence that holly was told that their marriage was over.". Take off that white knight helmet, it's obviously constricting your oxygen supply.
Why are you sea-lioning this hard for a pussy-pass for an adult woman who we literally know chose to do this malicious act out of her own free will. She's the one person Jared was sexually involved with that was in control and consenting. as far as we know, she might have been manipulating him. I think you need to stop until you can actually muster said evidence. You're deliberately wasting everyones time and it's kind of dickish tbh. I don't even get your stance on this. We're all in agreement that the people he was sexting and grooming were victims. why is it so important to you that this abusive and manipulative woman also be a victim? is it some fucked up feminist mental gymnastics that women can't ever be in the wrong or someshit? I don't get your train of thought. you come out looking slightly mad actually.
I've never watched a ProJared video. Every time I saw him my gut reaction was always "naw, I ain't seeing that shit."
Don't go lecturing other people about definitions when your idea of a source is a single text quote without any link to it and 'it exists, trust me'. And especially not when you're being such a dick to everyone for no reason.
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