Youtuber Projared is accused of cheating on his wife before filing for divorce. - Sensationalist Headlines

Boy I'd be anxious around my wife if I was cheating on her too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProJared/comments/bmx6rr/upvote_for_awareness_proof_jared_has_sent_and/ Big reddit post but you asketh for the proofeth from a user and you geteth. Not the greatest but the proof is out there. even if you wanna say "well they could be LYING about their age" in the twitter thread there's pics of jared directly commanding fans he was dming to pause his videos and masturbate for him. so either he's a pedo invoking his inner louie ck or a not pedo invoking his inner louie ck So yeah jared's a total piece of shit of out 10 still. Holly's a asshole out of 10 because the "supposed" first contact between her and jared was February while her and Ross didn't get publicly divorced until september Is heldi's behavior concerning and as taliyah put it "y i k e s" short answer: yes, but no long answer: It really depends on most situations when it comes down to this tit for tat behavior, but if the timeline we are currently seeing break free is true and accurate Heldi is still in the clear because she had to experience him go from loving and giving all of her attention to her to jared ghosting her in the text messages posted. as someone who is also young and dumb, i've been on both sides of that. I've had to ghost people that are very very clingy. But in the same light i've been ghosted from people for coming too intense as heldi was (which makes sense because dude you love not talking to you but you think you can move forward and fix it by going along how he wants do it) Also https://twitter.com/animationhac/status/1130689034034921472 https://twitter.com/Fffsteak/status/1130686833451458567 At best only two of the people in this situation are assholes or as you said all of them are as bad.

this is such a disaster. the only thing i know for concrete is that Jared is a sex fiend who solicits nudes from fans, which is so obviously not okay, and add in the fact that some were under age and he was fully aware - it's hard to take anything in his defense seriously.

Not to mention, this entire fucking thing could've stayed behind closed doors and solved between them. It was brought to the public. People are bound to make their own conclusions. This is getting much more grayer as time goes on and this is where it should be brought back into privacy. Let it be forgotten for a while and come back when everything is resolved. As in to answers most questions and allow these public figures to attend public events without being questioned about said event. Or never bring it back. At this point, might be better. Who knows. This is the second time the drama was revived by both of the shakiest actors of this drama now to paint the third one in a different light for many. It should be figured out between them rather then spilled onto the public yet again. This brings a lot more confusion into the mix and a lot more emotional baggage to manage. Quite the shitshow.

It absolutely should have stayed private, but Jared blew that out the window when he decided to block his wife on Twitter before publicly announcing to the world we were getting divorced. Heidi was dragged into this mess with necessity, since she is the person that Jared publicly announced he was being divorced from. Holly didn't need to get dragged into this, but she kinda jumped down the lion's throat first chance she got. It's far from an ideal situation, but this is the bed they've made for themselves. Whether they (or we) like it or not, now they have to lay in it.

Jared blocking Heidi and then releasing a statement which implied it represented both of them was a major red flag. Then him coming out and saying he didn't want it made public is another big one. Why announce it in the first place if you don't want people talking about it? Clearly he wanted people to take his side before shit came out, and the shit doesn't paint him in a positive light even if you assume Heidi is in the wrong.

Thanks for the information. It can be hard to keep all of this stuff straight. The main thing I'm looking for is verification that he was soliciting nudes from fans without knowing if they were of age or not. That seems to be suggested here, but I'd like something more substantial. I mean, it's entirely possible that the reason he had a separate blog for all of this to begin with was to filter out underage fans. Here they say their interactions with jared began when they were 15-16, but that doesn't really tell me when the individual interactions being described took place. I'd just like more information. There are clearly big problems here, I just don't know if they could be definitively described as pedophilia.

The underage girls he interacted with that leaked his dick pics and DMs we’ve talked about it all thread

Assuming what Holly posted wasn't fabricated, he wasn't the first person to talk about it publicly. Heidi was on facebook.

Given the rest of what she said that’s a big assumption

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7DV2jDWkAAxazK.jpg If it were a fabrication, or altered in some way, wouldn't Heidi have said so? That, along with the fact that she's on record threatening to "destroy him" multiple times, is it unreasonable to expect someone to respond the way that jared did? How would you expect someone to behave if they were in the position that jared describes, and how does his behavior deviate from it?

Honestly going by the development so far I'm more inclined to believe its the same dude. Yeah I dont want to seem like I'm brushing off the recent tweets against Heidi, but you know why? Love makes you do crazy things, and an abusive one even more so. I'm inclined to believe that Jared messed her up during their marriage that all she can do is defend her side of the story. Why would someone like holly go out of her way to defend someone who made a blog and sent/recieved nudes from minors and ignore his own spouse unless she was getting something out of it. Heidi's in bad shape, but I also feel just as bad for Ross, who had to put up with this shit. The fact that his own wife had been tip toeing the line with not being a supportive lover to him to downright "meeting with another guy in another part of the country to screw". Dude had the right idea to come out with the divorce, but once it turned out to be a close friend of his hes now just seeing his ex defend the guy she cheated with who was already married. I'm no fan of this type of internet drama as much as the next guy, but the coverage and the story behind it all is just beyond ludicrous.

Im 90% sure the reason Heidi was like that was due to holly literally fucking her husband and her repeatedly not agreeing with it. Speaking from experience, when your partner does something like cheating or pushing for an open relationship to cheat guilt free, you go along with it because you don't want to lose them. You delude yourself into thinking you can still fix it, when the actuality is, you're going to be thrown into near insanity. It eats at you like a parasite and you start acting like Heidi did in those text, you're trying to wring control back into your partner with them purposely veering away. It sends you into a deep depression and self hate, to the point that you feel numb or suicidal. Holly is using out of context txts to act like Heidi is always like this, but why would she stay with Jared if she knew how destructive her presence was to Heidi. This is extremely evident when she was still married for a couple of months prior to cheating with Jared, and Heidi sensing what was up.

okay like it's been established that heidi was the one who started the open relationship, and in her own words she's the one who "demanded that they confront their feelings for each other and explore where that leads them" this narrative of "jared pushed heidi into an open relationship so he could cheat on her" is just factually, provably untrue, and no one involved even contests that.

“He says he only acted with my approval and this is nothing short of bullshit,” “It’s legitimately insane. I told him in no uncertain terms that I was not comfortable with polyamory after he proved he could not be transparent with me. Countless people can corroborate this."

And you're not understand it at all, she went along with it out of fear of backlash and loss from Jared. She most likely saw its either "Jared leaves me for holly" or "Jared has a fuckbuddy out of town and i keep him as a husband". You're completely not seeing or have experienced what the total shock of cheating/lying does to a person who's in a relationship for a long time. I've experienced it before with a ex that was dragging me along lying to me, and I actually thought of going with the poly thing just to stay with them after 4 years. Or my mom whom found out my father was cheating on her with some woman, and caught him red handed. But she dropped it out of fear of being single even when he refused to apologize or acknowledge it. Cheating makes you do extremely stupid shit, and I've seen the whole "well open is better than nothing" route plenty of times from victims.

"After he proved he could not be transparent with me". She demanded that he "explore his feelings" with holly. She expressly gave enthusiastic consent for them to have sex with each other. She didn't think they communicated properly with her afterwards, and that's what lead to her not being okay with polyamory. She still was the one who started the open relationship. She's still the one who forced them to meet up in the first place. This is all corroborated by the stuff she herself posted.

It wasn’t public Facebook page I thought

Her public Facebook looks like: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/657/77d3bc40-c66d-44e6-b785-29a798ff2fa9/image.png That screenshot was pretty clearly a friends & family account.

I can't believe the almost-sort-of narrative change over the last few pages. This situation hasn't gotten any messier. The waters are just being muddied by super personal conversations being exchanged from a time of extreme vulnerability from all parties involved. Holly and Jared have made obvious attempts to change the narratives - they initially basically gaslighted the internet. The discourse about their private lives really should have stopped there, and focus be put on the grooming of underage fans. But since we're here, actually discussing whether or not Heidi was abusive, I have to say it flat out: none of the new information really changes my perspective on the situation. We knew since the start of this that Heidi was aware of what Jared was doing on some level. She confessed to this completely willingly. We knew that she wasn't proud of her behavior during the relationship, as most abuse victims aren't. I'm not making this post to exonerate anything Heidi is currently being accused of, I'm just want to emphasize that it's nothing compared to the (private) issues with Jared and Holly and the (very public) crimes of Jared with his fans. I'm almost in utter disbelief that someone actually floated the idea of Jared being some innocent victim in this. The two narratives Heidi and Jared have put forward are pretty much polar opposites, which means someone is lying through their teeth. Who do you think it is: the sex pervert harassing underage fans, or the person who is only involved in this drama to begin with due to Jared making their divorce public? It could honestly come to light that Heidi was completely okay with the love triangle, and it wouldn't matter one bit. She'll always be the victim in my eyes, and if you disagree, that's really okay too - Jared has been grooming underage fans. Jared has been collecting child pornography. Even if you choose not to believe this for whatever reason, we still know 100% for a fact that he has abused the power dynamic he is in.

Ross slightly aluded to his relationship in this recent vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFcCJcq0DDU

https://twitter.com/AntonioChavezSN/status/1130721237938970627?s=19 if this is true then that's hilarious Everyone but Rossman is a giant FREAK

His source is kiwifarms and a picture of him on Instagram with a sailor moon outfit so uh evidence pls?

Opportunists and shitsturrers abound.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/134149/99770b25-5e97-43aa-9400-c1268fc1a2dc/image.jpeg This is the closest to evidence of another guy I can find but he claims she was fucking him and is lying with no evidence to bring to the table

And this becomes the truth. God they're all fucked.

Holly kinda lost me with her side the second she claimed that Heidi couldn’t be abused as she didn’t leave. what fucking universe does she exist in

I would argue Ross hasn't, and him going "This is all behind me, here"s some projects while I have your attention" was 100% the best move.

I'm curious about how much Ross knew before his divorce and whether he was involved in the whole polygamy situation but he's the only person who's acted sensibly in this whole situation and he deserves his privacy so I hope he continues to be left out of the drama.

And now the possible worst scenario comes to pass; people possibly making claims to be a part in the whole "polygamy" situation and getting more and more heads in the shitstorm. This drama is getting worse all the time. We can only assume now that whatever/whoever the other guy was is that Heidi had a long distance relationship with but ended it herself when Jared could NOT be trusted. The smart thing to do is to not get involved until the whole debacle dies by letting Jared and Holly take the fall for adultery and holding on to child porn.