They must be pumping out serious bribery money for these types of moves. Every single backer should be entitled to a complete and full refund for fraud.
how good is the drm on epic game store anyways? Like they half baked every other feature there.
If I were a developer, I would see this type of piracy as a message if not a challenge to open up the avenues of purchasing.
I'm seeing more and more statements of pirating for every new exclusive announced.
The reasons behind it are varied but have similar grounds.
Poor service, poor security, bad business practices, poor regional pricing etc.
There are service problems that are causing people to pirate, and making games exclusive to a platform with problems exacerbates these issues.
They were shitposting, and then like a half hour later were 'shitposting' about people pirating Satisfactory.
I get that piracy is theft so its morally incorrect to do it but why do companies and developers get to use the "piracy is morally bad" excuse to demean piracy while they constantly fuck over and give 0 crap about everyone else?
This isnt just about Epic and other bunch of devs but If this was about morality devs wouldnt go back on their promises in a crowdfunding project, and EGS would find a better way to compete other than just to throw money at things, but since we're the one consuming the end product we have to care about morality because...?
Morals are socially constructed. If enough people think pirating a game isn't harmful seeing our current situation, we're altering the morals and piracy suddenly becomes good. Then your argument fails.
Short term financial gain for long term reputation loss.
Greedy cunts.
I personally prefer total erasure to piracy. It sends a stronger message than even open piracy does.
I'll use Spore as an example. Like many, when I saw Will Wright's GDC talk about Spore, I fell in love and it became my most anticipated game of the time. Then EA happened, as it inevitably does, and what came out on launch was a thin mockery of Wright's vision. For EA, it was a Thursday.
A lot of people bought Spore. A lot more people pirated spore. A much smaller minority including me refused to play the game at all.
The signals the first two groups send to EA is that their game is popular and what they did was successful, but a lot of people didn't feel like paying for it. Claims of moral supremacy are seen as hollow justifications to cover up a desire to take free stuff instead of paying for it. The third group's signal to EA is by its absence; a gap in the results that wasn't in the forecast.
People just need to stop caving in on boycotts and actually take a stand for themselves, and part of that is realizing what the video game companies actually hear when the Internet says "we're mad so we're pirating your new release".
Who the fuck cares about piracy being morally just? The only people who seem to care about that are the people against piracy, people who pirate stuff don't care at all about the morality of it.
Game gets timed exclusivity on a storefront when it was going to be released on another store originally, people get mad about it and decide to pirate it as a fuck you to said storefront, that's it. There's no moral turmoil here. Quit the virtue signaling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnsiZOJjfUg
I's pretty sure Layla is just saying things to get a rise out of people because she's still mentally 14 and wants to provoke people to go off topic. Just ignore her.
But back on topic, another game being stuck on a digital storefront that doesn't even have half the features that Steam has. Even the EA storefront looks more appealing than Epics. At least EA has Origin Access.
Pirating exists because people either aren't happy with how the game turned out in some way, or just don't give a fuck about buying it at all.
Excusable? I don't think so, but some of the shit being pulled nowadays doesn't makes me want pirates to stop either.
Giving feargus and tim your money is never ever a wise decision.
Console exclusivity is absolute shitfuckery of the highest order that's been destroying the industry for years, we don't need more of the same thing within a single platform.
How does console exclusivity "destroy" the industry?
I wonder, if Valve were to release another game, would Epic give try to them a deal to be an EGS exclusive as well?
It's a get-out-of-jail free card. Afraid people won't buy your console because it's shitty closed hardware that comes packaged with predatory practices such as PS+? Buy game exclusivity so they have no choice.
And if it seems like I'm a console hater, I absolutely don't hate them from principle. They could easily coexist with each other and PC, and they'd actually benefit from it - they do have their individual strengths. But they insist on garbage like this and it holds them back. Epic is now trying to do the same with PC. Launch a shitty store and get away with it because people can't buy the games elsewhere. Fuck that.
I just wonder when Epic is going to start bribing internet companies to throttle IPs with Steam on them.
You know what, fine. Go Epic Store exclusive.
I PUT ON MY EYE PATCH, HOOK, PEG LEG, PARROT AND HAT.
Why are you muddying the waters? Why are we talking about console exclusivity which actually has a half decent excuse versus same platform exclusivity of third party titles.
This has nothing to do with consoles, they are vastly different once the nuance comes in.
I don't know if it has any in itself. World War Z was epic store exclusive and that didn't even need cracking, as far as I've seen someone just took the files from the download and that's all.
Do you want online stores to go the way of streaming services?
Do you want there to be 20 different stores each with different prices and different exclusives? Maybe with subscription fees?
Because that's the way things are gonna go if we don't boycott EGS.
Stop acting like it's just us being slightly inconvenienced that we have to use another launcher. I've recognized a pattern in online distribution, and I want to keep the pattern from going again. I'm not gonna 'suck it up' because if I do, then in ten years things are going to look like the corporate hell that is online streaming.
Stores and streaming platforms are very different services
Streaming platforms did start life as storefronts, Amazon for example.
Really bummed out by this. The alpha version they had available many years back was really cool. Was really weird exploring knowing that no matter what you did, you were always destined to die. Find a good view and watch the end of the solar system. Was a weird sense of melancholy. It really nailed the trapped in a time cycle aspect. Of course this full release is supposed to have a way to break the cycle.
Guess I'll miss out on it now. The original was a cool experience at least.
Maybe so, but analogy being used is still very much the same.
The entertainment industry ( beyond video games ) is slowly but surely segmenting themselves.
Now you have Uplay, Origin, Epic Games Store, Disney+, Amazon Prime etc all vying for exclusives.
This is our future, and people aren't seeing the problem with all these services.
This isn't convenience for the consumer, this is convenience for the producers.
All under the guise of better helping the creators.
I've heard this before with Tidal, and the same things are happening again but on a much wider scale now.
I mean the difference with these PC game stores is that you don't have to spend more money to get the products - you just give your money to a different company for that product
We already hit a consumer rights roadblock with purchasing licenses for games off a store instead of actually owning the game, but most people (including me) don't seem to mind too much
I didn't bring them up, just explaining why they suck for the guy who seems to think they're a-ok and we're suddenly freaking out over exclusives for nothing or something.
Microsoft, Playstation, EA, and Nintendo all have subscription services. Ubisoft have repeatedly said they believe the future of games is game streaming. They're not as different as you would like, and they're getting closer slowly but surely.
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