• Starbreeze CEO claims it may not survive another year without more funding.
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It's like any time you get a chance to make a contrarian post your brain turns off and you fail to read what people are actually writing. Starbreeze has been on the edge of collapse more than once, they never learn and are only in this position because the management keep making terrible business decisions and pushing out bad games no one wants. If another company invests in them at this point they're just as bad at business as Starbreeze are. Investors are meant to invest in companies with good ideas or potential they can't quite meet, not companies who have consistently fumbled every project they've worked on.
Well it also flopped because it's not fun and lacked many of the features that Payday 2 had at that point.
Starbreeze didn't make RAID it was Lion Game Lion
Keep in mind when they tried to get a better engine it ended up in TWD.
Could of fooled me because it plays and feels almost exactly like release day Payday 2. Only thing it has going for it is John Cleese tbh.
John Cleese is in Payday 2 now.
And if they truly have no potential, then they won't get invested in. It's as simple as that. My point was that it isn't "saving a company that doesn't deserve to exist" if another company invests in it. The post was claiming that companies that are doing poorly deserve to die, and that's it; a point that is objectively silly.
But if the company isn't worth being invested in, then that's exactly the case lol
The extremely broad statement I was replying to was Which is pretty clearly ridiculous to anyone with even baseline knowledge of investment or markets.
okay I'll bite Can you explain why it's ridiculous like I have no understanding of baseline markets or investments? If you know, can you explain that like I'm dumb?
Sure. Not understanding doesn't make you dumb, it just means that you don't know. Essentially, when a company is doing poorly, there are a lot of reasons that could be contributing to it's poor profits. Temporary mismanagement, bad investments on the behalf of the company (internal or external, like developing an expensive, bad game), or maybe the company just hasn't existed for long enough to be at the point where it's turning profit, but it will in the future. All of these companies may still have value, even if they're about to tank. If these companies are percieved to still have value, then other companies might step in and invest, saving them from bankruptcy. This is often done via stocks (selling ownership of a part of the company) or bonds (essentially, long-term investments that are paid off after a fixed time). In addition to these, other, less established methods can br employed, like private contracts that include stipulations for cash injections or covering certain costs in exchange for a service, like exclusivity (if it's a cash injection, the exclusively likely wouldn't be permanent). All of the above are "bailouts that they don't deserve". But the thing is, all that companies ever "deserve" is what the market and regulatory bodies do to them. To imply that a company should die because it isn't currently turning a profit is very silly because if that were the case, then Microsoft, apple, Google, Tesla, Spacex, Valve, Twitter, essentially every restaurant ever, essentially every mom and pop store ever, or any other business that at any point survived off of speculative value (a lot of them), wouldn't "deserve" to exist. Which would mean that large businesses would essentially go unchallenged forever with 0 chance of ever having any part of the market taken from them, ever. Apologies for any misspelling, I'm on mobile
Yeah unfortunately I don’t think they got what it takes to make another decent game. I like Payday 2 a lot, but really the only thing which makes it work is the premise of the game being about a bunch of badasses who rob banks and harass corrupt government officials. In terms of gameplay mechanics and the engine’s performance (particularly the AI), the whole thing is a mess where several third party mods were made to address different issues which the developers failed to notice. Pretty much the only thing keeping me active on it is the incredible modding community. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bI5CXAZ79SU
I know, but it's like a 50/50 split between being a Payday 2 thing and a RAID cross promotion. Plus he has such a minimal role that it's pretty much a complete waste imo.
https://www.pcgamer.com/rockstar-buys-dollar79-million-studio-from-struggling-starbreeze/
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