AMD’s Ryzen 3000 Series Announced: This is it, fellas - Sensationalist Headlines

If AMD becomes toe for toe with intel and Nvidia, the biggest update to my rig in a good few years hopefully, will be all AMD based. Heck, the CPU is new and stuff so it will do for now, but the 1070ti could need upgrading in a good few years, if I see good deals, and an AMD card would probably be a good choice. I should have waited.

"a bit" is almost a decade old now. (don't worry i have one too, it runs shit fine but it's time to say goodbye)

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/238785/e3b83ed6-1d4f-413e-b552-074e818ae1b5/image.png This was one of my favourite moments of the keynote (via r/pcmasterrace)

It really is astonishing how long it lasted, I guess that was the only good thing of Intel's dominance.

I'm considering upgrading from my 1500x if my budget allows it, since I need to upgrade my GPU as well

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109886/959634a6-50ac-4f0d-9278-2b3ea3b6a31c/image.png Nuts I tell ya

Will AMD change chipsets for Ryzen 4? I'm wondering if I should make the switch and get those sweet 12 cores and eat shit on barely any IPC improvements over my current intel setup. Don't want to make that investment if AMD's gonna change chipset though.

ASUS is boasting that all their 300 and 400 series boards will support Gen 3 while MSi says don't count on it. Not sure about every vendor, but you'll have to wait for an announcement from your board maker. I imagine the 105w chips will have the least support on old boards.

I think 2020 is the last year they will use AM4 before moving to the next socket.

Alright, good to know. I'll hold off until AM5 then.

im really interested if manufactures are going to certify x470 for pci-e 4

Gigabyte did, they just enabled it on B450 and X470 boards through a BIOS update. Though you won't get PCIe 4.0 on a current processor, you'll need to upgrade.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/btvov1/asrocks_x570_aqua_showcased_at_computex_with_a/ Seems like asrock thinks it will be a banger

I love the concept though, whole mobo+CPU cooling with just an inlet and outlet. Would be tempting to pick up if it wasn't going to be $999. This goes even further: https://youtu.be/z7ZQBwN1mjU

Some PCIe lanes are wired to the chipset, others to the CPU. The ones wired to the CPU will support PCIe 4, but the ones wired to the chipset will remain on PCIe 3. The motherboard manual usually says which slots are hooked up to what. Though top one is (almost) always hooked up to the CPU will therefore work with PCIe 4 with a Ryzen 3000 installed.

MSI just started rolling out updates to certain 300 series boards.

A monoblock which also cools the chipset is a nice touch (especially since they've designed the shielding around it, so there's a little window where the chipset is).

I bought an Intel CPU more then a year ago. Always been an Intel lad, but next time I upgrade I will definitely consider AMD if they keep this up.

Yep, just checked last night and my B350 PC Mate has a bios update to support the new cpu's. I'm genuinely amazed by AMD, this kind of forwards compatability is unheardof. Even if I don't buy a new CPU and my motherboard bites the dust before that day ever comes, just having HAD that option to make such a massive upgrade without having to shell out for every other major component just to make it all work is astoundingly good value. Love it.

Previous Ryzen CPUs are still amazing for what most people do with their PCs, it's kinda sad to see people getting suckered in to pointless upgrades because "its better for gaming"

It kind of throws me back to the time when AMD started releasing dual-core CPUs and people (usually Intel fan-boys) were like "that's dumb, don't bother with those, nothing uses dual-core yet", because now people seem to have this attitude that Ryzen's slightly-less-than-Intel performance isn't worth it for massively more cores. Now we have Intel charging out the nose for CPUs that in the best cases are slightly faster than AMD's offerings, but at, what, 2-3x the price? And with a hardware-level flaw that's "fixed" by effectively cutting performance by 33-40%?

Intel is a lot faster in games (20-30%) in its best case scenarios, but that's really only in contrived CPU game benchmarks (1080p with a RTX 2080) and in the few games that really don't like Ryzen's poor latency (AC odyssey stands out). 33-40% is the worst case scenario, that's equivalent to straight up disabling hyperthreading in an application that greatly benefits from it.

$60 more for .3ghz faster base clock and .1ghz faster turbo and the TDP difference is 40W?? (3700X/3800X) I love supporting AMD but that's quite a price jump. I'm assuming the 3800X can be overclocked more then the 3700X based on the TDP, otherwise no idea what's going on there. Does AMD have a "enhanced turbo" option like Intel has to force turbo at 100% constantly?

I have been out of the loop for awhile, but seeing 32-64 MB of L3 cache in an affordable CPU is still mind boggling. I remember when our family PC had that for RAM period.

Forcing single core turbo on all cores on an AMD CPU would destroy it in a few months. The voltages used for single core boosts are too high to use for all cores. I assume the 3800x has a more aggressive boost algorithm, the 3700x probably reduces its clocks a bit when its pushed past 65 watt.

Guess I'll join the crowd chiming in here.... cause if these numbers are real.... I don't need to upgrade, but good lord do this is making me want to.

It's true you don't get much for those 60$, but at least it's not Intel where they keep removing SMT and/or overclocking on cheaper models. So you're free to just buy the 3700x and push it as far as you're comfortable with.

Found this on a comment chain. 📂 INTEL └📁Good Deals └⚠️ This folder is empty

I would imagine the 40W TDP difference between the 3700X/3800X is the potential for overclocking headroom. I know previous Ryzen chips didn't have a lot to give, but these ones might be different? I guess we'll find out. Either way, I have a 6600k and I'm SO tempted to upgrade if these pan out the way they're expected to

The 3700X is almost certainly a worse binned version of the 3800X. I don't expect much in the way of overclock potential.