• Netflix’s ‘The Witcher’ Set Video Leak Showcases Nilfgaardian Armor
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Cahir was a Nilfgaardian, so you’re not wrong.
I've read the books back in 2015, so some information is fuzzy, especially since I've replayed all the Witcher games since then
Well, you see the Nilfgaardians are, like, the big evil empire, right? They got all black colours and stuff, so like, they gotta be spooky, right? Also, I feel like a racist European for admitting to this, but multiethnic actors in the Northern Kingdoms' garb looks so hilariously American to me
Really doesnt do them favors to compare themselves to GoT, maybe the medieval fantasy show with the best costume design yet, thats also adapting a book https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/b96a2c35-e68e-440a-8b5e-34f6bc559cb2/image.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/41587abd-dd47-4068-9739-114e493e3ae5/image.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/30d82b1f-7f7f-441d-99f1-efd4e379aab4/image.png Will have to wait and see the final result on camera, but i'm absolutely not seeign the same attention to detail and authenticity
What gets me is that these weird organic looking things have identical lines, every chest piece is the same as any other, every shoulder guard It would drive me up a FUCKING wall to see something like that if I had any interest in this show
A gamberson alone would easily protect you against most cuts and arrows, though wasn't worth terribly much against stabby things like spears, lances or swordpoints. At least, as far as I recall.
Gamberson was a lot thicker than the stuff shown in the OP picture though. It might have had some effectiveness vs. arrows but I don't think it could be argued it 'easily protected' against them. A lot depends on how bulky it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODS7ksbBRuE
OP pic is clearly plate with some funky wrinkly shit on it, I was just sorta talkin' gambersons in general 'cause I'm a fat ol' nerd.
The left middle picture looks like soft serve ice cream
That's supposed to be plate? lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODS7ksbBRuE Shadiversity has a couple of useful videos about gambeson.
I don't really mind the texture, but the fact that it's lacking any kind of detail like trim, rivets, and other embelishments except for a haphazardly slapped on emblem is really getting to me. Obviously they can't go for CDPR design, but they would have been better off sticking to more historical design painted black.
Last I had read the armore in the witcher books was fairly believable and vaugly realistic, or at least functional. I'm not even sure what this is supposed to be.
looks like they butchered a race of giants and used their nut sacks as protective armor coverings
its likely because these are just supposed to be for extras and won’t be seen in any sort of detail.
It's likely just background character armor, designed to be seen through smoke and fog from a distance versus in plain light like these leaks.
nilfgard wasn't even necessarily evil lmao this show is gonna be less about monster slaying and detective work and more about geralt mowing down hoards of 'evil nilfgard goons' with his new and improved igni machine gun or some shit because the alternative would cost money
Dude the show is a straight adaptation of the books. A number of the short stories are confirmed as being adapted for Season 1, which will set up the main characters, while either the end of the season/season 2 is going to start the Saga which is about Ciri, Geralt, and Yen's growth - interpersonally and in their relationship. Geralt and the Hansa going south to find Ciri, etc...
This is exactly what I fear. Their foot soldiers being dressed like orcs tells me they're going to make Nilfgaardians out to be generic bad guys/stock villains to slaughter by the hundreds, missing the very point of the source material's nuanced to the matter of good vs evil and thereby rendering the entire production meaningless.
Also, to add on, Sapkowski is an advisor to the series. He isn't writing it, as he says he's not much of a screenwriter, but has given his consent to everything that is going on. When he's on set he even has his own director's chair apparently.
Sapkowksi is also something of a dickhead who basically just shits about demanding money and prestige.
We've gone over this before - and while I personally don't think he should have sued CD Projekt, within Poland he was apparently well within his rights to do (and is likely why CD Projekt decided on a settlement as well). He also doesn't hate the games so :shrug: It's his series, and it's an adapation of his books.
While I agree for the most part the regular Lannister dude's armour is still heckin whack As is this Nilfgaardian set but w/ev just make a good show prob solved
they look like they're gonna take Scott Bakula to the Enterprise-J to fix the temporal cold war https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110042/e7dfc46d-a50e-4740-aeba-04a815aa0580/image.png
No, he really does hate the games, multiple people who know him have attested to it, he just later tried to backpedal his remarks after the backlash he got. It wasn't a translation error, it wasn't a weird foreigner joke, the guy doesn't like the games. Many other writers, like the creator of the Metro books, have repeatedly stated the guy is a dickhead. You're not correct in this at all.
Who exactly? Because his statements about liking the games are at least as early as TW2. That's some long term pack peddling then. He does take issue with game art being used for the American book covers, but tbh he's not really wrong since a lot of that art just doesn't fit the content of the books they're on. Other regions got way better book art.
I specifically noted the creator of the Metro series, just didn't remember his name because it's fucking Cyrillic alphabet soup. Dmitry Glukhovsky. https://www.pcgamesn.com/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/the-witcher-games-andrzej-sapkowski-profits There is also when he said people who play games aren't intelligent, he says games can't have a story and that they are stupid, he says the games harmed the sale of his books and that he made the games popular.
Who does not "know" Sapkowski. Source people who actually know him saying that he's an asshole. Again, a sarcastic comment taken out of context of a larger talk. https://i.redd.it/9xw6nrjocia21.jpg But really this goes back to his feelings on Adaptations in general which is as follows QUESTION: Now very popular games were made based on your Witcher saga. Have you played it yourself? Sapkowski: (Laughs.) Never! I have no time to play video games. QUESTION: How do you feel about their existance? Sapkowski: (throw up your hands.) They paid me, but not enough. I want more! I was stupid back then (laughs) I did not believe that this game will be so popular. QUESTION: Can your other books be adapted in the form of games, comics and other things? And what would you prefer for yourself? Sapkowski: It all depends on the talent of those who will do so. If they are talented there will be a success. I'm not against it. QUESTION: Your Witcher is adapted in various ways (comics, games, movies, etc.). What do you think about the adaptations? Sapkowski: Adaptations have to adapt. They are always worse than the original. Almost always. Adaptation can be described by a Gaussian curve: bad - worse - terrible - not that bad - good - better than the original. So there are some good ones. For example, Kubrick's "The Shining" is much better than the original work of Stephen King. All that matters is the skill of the adaptator. If it is good, the result may turn out better than the original. But this happens very, very rarely which is the same thing he told Eurogamer in 2012 (after TW2) "The game - with all due respect to it, but let's finally say it openly - is not an 'alternative version', nor a sequel. The game is a free adaptation containing elements of my work; an adaptation created by different authors," he noted. "Adaptations - although they can in a way relate to the story told in the books - can never aspire to the role of a follow-up. They can never add prologues nor prequels, let alone epilogues and sequels. "Maybe it's time to set the matters straight," he went on. "'The Witcher' is a well made video game, its success is well deserved and the creators deserve all the splendour and honour due. But in no way can it be considered to be an 'alternative version', nor a 'sequel' to the witcher Geralt stories. Because this can only be told by Geralt's creator. A certain Andrzej Sapkowski." It would be really hard for that to be a backpedal to statements made in 2016, when that interview was in 2012. In 1996 he had this to say about Adapations I believe in the professionalism of our cinematographers and wish them good luck, but I see everything in a black light. But what could I do when they came to buy the rights? Become proud and not sell, explaining it with the above-mentioned gloomy pictures? I would be mistaken for an idiot. I sold the movie rights, I'll sell it to the video game developers. And if it does not work out - please, blame them for it. From April of last year I would like - maybe at last - to be well understood, and before my speech about games will trigger another shit on the web. The game based on the book can be a great game, make a sensation among players - as it does "The Witcher". A comic based on literature can be number one among comic books. A movie with a script-based script can be a thrilling box office hit - if that's the case, I'll appreciate the first, honor, and take off my hat. But nothing will change the fact that these are only adaptations of literary works to other media - with an emphasis on "other". Adaptations with all the drawbacks of adaptation. You can not put a book and its adaptation on the same level, compare and combine them, because they are incomparable and unconnected. There are no contact points. The mystery for me is who invented this "recreating the spirit", attributed to adaptations. Even though adaptation was a masterpiece in its genre, the spirit of the book lives only in the book and is not transferable. From 2010 The film is negligible, and the game is insignificant to me as well. I have not touched them and never will. I don't want anything to do with them. They exist and that's fine. No, that's not what's he says. What he says is this. https://i.redd.it/2f6pnmhsd5e21.jpg And he DOES NOT blame CDPR for that, he takes issue with the Book Publishers using game art that doesn't have anything to do with the stories in the book. From the EuroGamer article I quoted earlier "Though I praised the knowledge and familiarity of fantasy readers, there are some among them who have less of it. Sometimes, by looking at the covers, they reject books as game novelizations, products secondary to the game." Books based off of games are largely not that good, and I don't blame him for feeling that bad cover art that makes the books look as if they're based off of the games is scaring some people away from getting the books. "It is also important to note that there is a negative aspect, damages if you like, that I bear because of the game," he went on, "but neither the game or, God forbid, its creators can, of course, be blamed for such state. Some foreign publishers are doing me a disservice by painting my books with artwork borrowed from the games, and including game advertisements and game related blurbs inside. ~ Andrzej Sapkowski: I can't really talk about the game itself, because I do not know it, I do not play games. The popularity and results of the sales speak for themselves: if it was a bad game, it would not have such achievements. But by its success, the game, unfortunately, harmed my books. Some publishers started putting images from the game on the covers of my books. Many readers began to classify my books as related to the game or written for it. There are many such books on the science fiction and fantasy market. Seeing on the cover of my book a picture from the game, many think that the game came out earlier. Serious readers of science fiction and fantasy despise such literature and do not buy it, because, firstly, it is secondary and not original, and secondly, it has absolutely no value for those who do not play any games. Namely, such readers are the overwhelming majority. It is also not helped by the fact that such books are sometimes written by famous writers, such as Mike Reznik ("Tomb Raider"), Alan Dean Foster ("Shadow Keep"), Greg Bear ("Halo") and Brandon Sanderson ("Infinity Blade "). The reaction of the fans will be unambiguous: "He copies the game, like a mammon, for the sake of a despicable penny." Usually they also write these books half-heartedly, but whatever. Let them be read by gamers. But I was dissatisfied with the fact that at the book exhibitions, as well as conventions, people pick up my books, look at their covers and contemptuously put them aside: "Based on a game. We are not interested in games, we want something original, new, Abercrombie, Aaronovich or Trigillis. " For a long time now I have been struggling with the use of graphics from the games on the covers of my books and I do not allow this to be done by the publishers. Wherever I can - but in the US, for example, I can not do this. On the cover of the American edition of "Time of Contempt" we see a Witcher taken from a game who fights some Sandworm. And I have to explain to the fans that the book was written twelve years before the game appeared, and that the Sandworm is from the game, not from the book. In the book there's not enough worms to even make a poition out of them. The books were already wildly popular in Poland and large parts of Europe (Especially the Eastern Bloc). While it's not entirely true for the US (but the books did start getting published in the US before the first Witcher game) the popularity of the books did drive the games early on. The books have been published in 23 different countries, do you really think that those publishing houses only have published where they did, often before the games were a thing, based on game popularity? 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This looks less like a region's armor and more like the latest Power Rangers mook getup. Who the hell creates genuine hardened armor with that sort of warped shriveled design?
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