ahh, yes! what better person to represent a straight pride parade and get your perfectly reasonable message across than a grifter like Milo "Editorial was more entertaining than my actual book" Yiannopoulos?
>adopts Milo Yiannopoulos as new face of campaign advocating for 'oppressed majority of heterosexuals'
https://i.imgur.com/7gNdmPQ.png
okay there is literally 0.00% chance this is or ever was a serious thing
Nope, that one was you.
This is Milo we're talking about- if he were born 100 years ago, he'd rat out every minority to the Nazis he could find if they gave him a nicer gas chamber.
The best man to represent straight people everywhere is a flaming homosexual?
Last I heard Milo was in some serious debt so he's probably game for anything that pays at this point.
So think about this for just a moment.
This parade is a "TOTALLY NOT GAY" parade for "TOTALLY NOT GAY" people to come along and sing and shut about how "TOTALLY NOT GAY" they are.
Juuuuuuust something to think about for a moment...
It's Milo. He's so broke at this point that he'll whore himself out to anyone who'll have him.
The ally bit was mostly there to allow people who couldn't out themselves to identify with the community without, well, outing themselves.
Also, I'm sorry, if someone is just demisexual and not queer in some other way, then they really don't suffer from the same kind of... anything as other queer folks. Nobody has ever been discriminated against because they are only sexually attracted to people that they know, at least not in a way that's substantial.
Not to mention that I am mostly sure that if straight people wanna come to the gay pride parade and have a good time with people then that's a good thing, hell I'd wager it's encouraged.
An image that will stick with me forever is the sight of a full-on leatherman (he wasn't wearing assless chaps like some of the boys I saw in the parade but he was otherwise 100%) walking hand-in-hand with who I can only guess was his 9-ish daughter and mom, both dressed in normal summer street clothes, after the end of the Vancouver Pride parade some 15 years back.
And there were tons of families in the crowd. Vancouver Pride (and any Pride) is for everyone.
He's kindof had a fall from grace and showing up to stuff to be edgy is kindof his thing. I'm actually not surprised about this at all.
Because now Milo needs money and he burned his bridges. I bet I could hire Milo to speak at an event promoting Canadian-style health care and Canadian-style heavy (by US standards) bank regulation if I offered him $10,000.
I'm definitely against straight exclusion from the community - I attended pride and LGBT socials while still closeted which was an important part of me figuring myself out - I'm just not convinced that A being ally helps with that.
People who are asexual/aromantic are often forced and pressured into relationships or marriages they don't want, can be victims of corrective rape and are told by society that the way they experience sexuality is invalid, that there is something wrong with them. Sure, I can understand where you're coming from with regards to het/demi sexuality, insofar as it only makes it more awkward to find a hetero-normative relationship, but not wanting a sexual relationship or a relationship at all is a challenge to hetero-normativity and ace people suffer the push-back from society over that.
You prob could - guy has no standards
Can you smell what the AXE is grindin’
Bi people definitely have, we're discriminated against even by other LGBT people if we decide to enter a "straight" relationship, going so far as to say we don't exist and don't deserve to be on the acronym or that we're just in denial, and if we enter a gay relationship we're subject to the same discrimination as gay/lesbian people. Not real sure why you just focused on the demi thing.
Huh, well that's one of the most horrifying terms I've added to my vocabulary as of late. Jesus.
Because I'm not questioning whether or not bi people belong in LGBT, as they clearly do.
It just seemed odd to bring it up when they weren't really saying anything about demisexuals being represented in the acronym. But eh, I kind of went on a tangent anyway, my bad.
Milo isn't actually homosexual. He just presents himself as such so conservatives can have someone to point to and say "Here's a gay guy who shares our values, you liberals really do have it wrong"
Well he's at least bi, his whole scandal is that he was defending boinking young boys.
For a second I thought you were talking about me, not Milo, and was very confused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh07WlB46Gw
I don't see how one is contrary to the other. Milo can easily be gay and a piece of shit.
So it's pretty much a Massachusetts Nazi rally.
They were, though;
That's what ace inclusion in LGBTQ+ means. And that's actually part of why I, and a lot of others, have a problem with it. Because that would mean that straight demisexuals are being put in the same boat as trans/gay people, when the issues (and severity of issues) they face is extremely different. The ace community overlaps with the LGBTQ+, but how much you do (or don't) want to have sex itself really is just an entirely separate thing than LGBT issues; specifically, because it's something that's socially so easy to not make apparent.
The LGBT community has a specific culture and history, and it seeks to address issues with certain groups; not all groups. To claim that ace people have always been a part of it is simply historical revisionism. The A got changed from Ally to Ace after a twitter feud with the person running Aven, an ace organization. There's simply no reason that the ace community shouldn't be a separate entity that works with LGBT groups, without being a part of it.
Other than the whole "this doesn't really make sense" angle, the communities themselves are legitimately very, very different and have cultures that have some irreconcilable incompatibility. LGBT spaces have been changing a lot to accommodate ace individuals, in ways that fly counter to the whole "don't be ashamed of your sexuality" thing. Open discussion of sexual topics in a space that I personally go to is no longer kosher when certain individuals are present because those individuals are sex-repulsed. Our gay members aren't allowed to talk about being gay in the presence of certain members. Other members are simply uncomfortable with a lot of discussions and have made it a point to state that they often feel "Excluded" from discussion (which is sometimes about sex because shocker, it's a lgbt space!).
Quite frankly, I'm just not okay with someone who is a straight, a-romantic individual repping the lgbt cause, which is an actual thing that happens. They're different communities addressing different issues, and there's nothing wrong with treating them as such.
Nice to reread this post after they added Milo to the parade. It's Going Down does good work.
What do LGBTQ+ spaces have to do with talking about LGBTQ+ sex any more than any other space has to do with talking about straight sex?
Moreover, why are asexuals the only ones who are somehow separated from this? Most asexuals I know are uncomfortable with but not outright repulsed by people talking about sex, even though they have nothing against non-asexuals. Similarly, there are a lot of gay males uncomfortable with people talking about lesbian sex, even though they have nothing against lesbians, and vice versa.
Better yet, why are asexuals any different from allies here? If an ally is uncomfortable with discussion about sex, does that make them no longer an ally, even though they otherwise fight for your rights?
LGBTQ+ isn't just about sex, it's about surrounding yourself with people who don't hate you and want you to die just because you are not a straight cis person. That's the point of pride - it's "we're strong enough to overcome the hatred of us", not just "I'm a dude that fucks dudes". Whether a community welcomes or discourages discussion on sex is a totally separate issue that is not exclusive at all to LGBTQ+.
Well, for many individuals, it's quite literally the only place they're able to talk about their sexualities at all. It's not always the topic of discussion, but icing it out entirely is pretty fucking odd when it's an intrinsic part of the lgbt culture, both historically and presently.
If an ally was in a lgbt space and they said "Hey, that makes me uncomfortable" every time people talked about queer experiences, you seriously think that would be something that would be accepted? It wouldn't be. Allies aren't just people who fight for my rights any more than Q+ spaces are purely political locations.
Of course Q+ isn't just about sex; but it's about more than just finding people who don't hate you and want you to die just because you are not a straight cis person.
My post had a lot more content than you're addressing, you're fixating on a single issue.
