YouTube to Remove Thousands of Videos Pushing Extreme Views - Sensationalist Headlines

The dude might refer to himself as queer, but when you actually watch crowder talk about him he calls him a "little queer" "lispy little sprite" "eating chips num num num can't have just one, like dicks". It's not really the same thing. Calling yourself a slur is trying to take power from the word. Like black people calling themselves/eachother nigger. Using a slur to describe a group, if you're not part of that group, there can be different meaning to it. And I wouldn't call that image of a back and forth between crowder and maza evidence of any back and forth at all, it's all coming from crowder. What's his intent then, so many different videos calling this dude a lispy little latino vox queer, can you really just dismiss that as "edgy jokes".

I'd be more okay with this if youtube wasn't basically a monopoly on videos. Having that much control over market and censoring whatever they deem "extreme" is a rather bad setup.

Imagine fp's reaction if YouTube was purging leftist content. It's sad.

When leftist content starts advocating something as extreme as nazism, let it be purged. Until then, maybe there's a reason extreme alt-right channels and videos are being removed.

So... So far it seems most of the videos hit are left winger stuff... Why do I feel this is a excuse to clamp down on left wing stuff more while not even caring about the Conservative/Far right/Alt-right(all the same really) videos/channels?

You can take the moral high ground all you want. People like Crowder aren't extremists by any means, they're just on the other end of the spectrum. It's censorship.

ah yes, the video of that guy saying "maybe people shouldnt starve in developped contries" is just like that video of the guy going "kill this minority", there's no difference at all. far right winger youtubers directly inspiredreal world mass killings of minorities in the last few months - laura sauthern, her "great replacement" lies and the crhistchurch shooting as one example. might not be for you, but this is life or death for a lot of people.

The "great replacement" is definitely conspiracy level, but there is some truth to it. If western birth and migration rates continue at current levels westerners are on course for becoming minorities in their own countries and that's a fact. But is it a Jewish conspiracy or something else along those lines? Probably not. We're replacing ourselves. To address your last point: I'm not advocating for mass murder or anything along those lines, but maybe if migrants stayed in their home countries they wouldn't be shot by some crazy nationalist. If Europeans were mass migrating into africa/the middle east they would shoot us at the border.

do you realise how fucked up that sounds nice victim blaming my dude

im not saying mass murder is okay but maybe its the victims fault for being brown in a white nation!???! i mean one guy wants to murder people for being brown some exist as brown and move from one country to another really 50 50 blame there

Whether something fits on the left-right spectrum only depends on where you live and what the definition of 'normal' happens to be there. A mormon preacher's idea of 'normal', 'left-wing' and 'right-wing' is going to be very different than what a sex worker sees as 'normal', 'left-wing' and 'right-wing'. The ideas we consider right-wing are just the ideas that are right-wing compared to what we believe. The ideas we consider left-wing are just the ideas that are left-wing compared to what we believe. Whether an idea is extremist or not isn't based on how harmful the idea actually would be if it was implemented into law, it's a value judgement made by regular people like you or me through the lens of our own experiences. Being in the middle of the current political spectrum doesn't mean being objective or more correct, it just means being biased towards whatever the community we live in views as 'normal', and throughout human history what society has viewed as being 'normal' has often led to large numbers of people being unfairly harmed and discriminated against. As another example, things that are considered 'extremist' in the United States are often considered quite 'normal' in other countries, whether those countries happen to be Europe or China or North Korea. People living in countries and cultures different from you will have different ideas of what it means to be 'normal' or 'extremist' and there is no objective truth to what 'normal' actually is. All we can do is actually assess ideas based on the potential harm they cause, but this idea that it is hypocritical to deplatform someone because they are on the 'other side' is nonsense because the 'sides' are relative and don't exist to begin with.

It's not their land. As hypocritical as that sounds coming from an American, I was born here unfortunately.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/716/cd77903a-0966-4e56-a35d-0446b94446fd/image.png source https://twitter.com/MrAllsopHistory/status/1136326031290376193 The exact thing I knew would happen. Thankfully, it was restored.

Yea I agree pack it up and leave, the US belongs to native americans

In the 1970s there was a magazine article published that said that by the year 2000, all women will have double the IQ of all men. They based this statement on the fact that according to scientific studies, the average IQ of women had risen at a much faster rate than men over the same period and that therefore you could extrapolate that data into the future until the point where women overtook men and therefore by the year 2000, all women would have double the intelligence of all men, and by the year 2100, every single woman would be 10 times smarter than every single man. Did this happen though? Did all women become twice as smart as all men by the year 2000? No, of course not. The reason why is that this reasoning is bad. Extrapolating a current trend forever into the future until you get a result you want just means that we're ignoring the underlying circumstances that actually lead to this trend happening. Some people have actually done the math for this and worked out that at the current rate it would take something like several hundred years for the minority population in first world countries to actually 'replace' white people. But that isn't going to happen anyway because, again, this reasoning assumes that minorities are spilling out of some sort of endless black hole, when it reality the recent increase in migration numbers are due to real world factors that vary over time. I don't know the exact circumstances for every single migration within the last 20 years or so, but let's assume for a moment that there are some actual factors behind the relatively recent influx of immigrants and refugees into western/european countries. Let's think about some recent trends that might have resulted in a short but abrupt increase in the number of refugees and immigrants. How about the Syrian Civil War and the resulting Refugee Crisis? Well that would make a lot more sense that the aforementioned refugee black hole theory. And considering that illegal migration into the US and Europe is actually declining, the facts would appear to be in my favour.

Seriously the only way you could compare the channels getting banned to leftist stuff is if the leftist videos are unironic calls to violence telling people that anyone above a certain income bracket deserves to be shot dead. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough but I don't know any channels that say that sort of thing with anything approaching the following of people like Alex Jones or the other bastards.

this is who we have advocating for steven crowder not being extreme

Or we could just, y'know, NOT murder people for being born in a different place or having a different skin color? Is that not an option for some reason?

Your imagination is pretty weak then. Elix didn't take moral high ground there in any way. He stated a pretty apparent fact based on this communities history of rejecting extremism, and violence. You ignored this for your perceived moral high ground of censorship. No one has been censored by being banned from Youtube. Crowder has a website, a podcast hosted on several different services, he isn't silenced by anything being done here. Nor has he actually been banned from Youtube. As a platform, they wouldn't be silencing him. This is true, but ridiculous. America as a nation is founded on the concept of being a country for all men, where all men are equals. You are acting and saying things that seem to indicate that the country multiple people, including you, belong to, might be undeserving of the country? Why? How so? Says who? And due to the nature of advanced societies, birth rates do drop as large families were a symptom of high fatalities during birth, or before birth of the child/and or mother. So that's why. Because you "won" as a society. Now you're looking at the next group wanting to come have theirs, and saying "Not for you". This is stupid. The USA has the ability to help people, and it's taking in a tiny fraction of people who statistically give back more than they take. Why shouldn't you help them when you have more of the wealth than any part of the world, due to having stole it or exploited it from the rest of the world over 60 years? Who cares. Your country has only ever been made greater by taking in immigrants who work to better their new home.

Which ones, specifically?

Funny youd mention that, europeans did come to africa and the middle east in mass, it was called colonialism and they were the ones killing everyone with racist motivations then too

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1061/1924/products/Eyes_Emoji_large.png?v=1480481045 As an American talking to another American, you are dumb as hell. Migrants blending into societies is completely normal. You probably have irish/german blood in your veins from great grandparents, just like how i know for sure i'm 4th generation Italian from my mother's side. The great replacement is pure xenophobia of "them dirty blacks/browns taking our white women". It happened during any great migration of a poorer country moving to a richer one, it will happen again later down the line. I mean for fuck sake you can find articles from the early 1900s of the fear of Italians destroying america in the north east. Second, blaming fucking migrants for being shot by nutters has to be the hottest take in the entire world. You are literally blaming a murder victim instead of the murderer.

https://i.imgur.com/omvQIEA.png You really contradicted yourself on that last one there Cotton "Stay home or get fuckin killed lmao"

should i not be surprised that sgman91 agreed with this? Cause i'm really not.

Yeah... he got more and more weird as he kept going. All the white replacement crap is super stupid. Personally, I think Crowder is an idiot, but he's no worse than plenty of other comedians all over the place.

What are your standards for the average comedian? I'm pretty sure most of them have higher standards then advocating white replacement. So considering the fact that hes both unfunny and practically a nazi I can safely say that in my opinion he is plenty worse then comedians all over the place.

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What EXACTLY, in quotes from him, makes him a nazi? I know he makes lots of personal insults, mocks people, etc., but I honestly haven't seen anything from him that would even insinuate nazism.

So crowder's a sophistic jerk, I said i don't like him for that reason. Doesn't' mean he broke any rules in being a jerk, that's the point. And youtube agreed, asserting that Crowder had done nothing wrong apart from being a jerk, and amazingly, upheld Crowder's right to public expression on their platform until Maza whipped up a push from the media forcing them to backtrack. And guess what. I am gay, bite me. It's childish insults slung back in turn, and a public figure such as Maza should expect that. Maza's perfectly willing to slanderously accuse perfectly mainstream public figures as "White Supremicists", and encourage/incite political violence on his twitter, which is actually illegal in most every civilized nation. The man makes sophistic partisan content, doing things like downplaying and endorsing Antifa. And yet when some shade gets thrown his way, in a way that even something as hamfisted and notoriously skittish as youtube admits broke no rules, he instead riles up a coorporate and mob campaign to make someone who called him a mean name go away, nuking untold amounts of bystanders in the process. Maza is a hypocrite, and a sleazebag willing to weaponize absurd outrage to silence people he doesn't like. And i don't care who's doing that to whom, that's unacceptable, and the damage it does isn't limited to one shock jock takling head you don't like. It's dragging us all down, and taking serious axe swings at the axiomatic foundations of our society, while useful idiots cheer and laugh, because it's immediately convenient and gratifying for them to saw away at the branch they're sitting on.