Cultural appropriation: Make it illegal worldwide, Indigenous advocates say - Sensationalist Headlines

Cultural exchange and appropriation are different things. But banning appropriation is very retarded. It's a cunt-ish thing to do like stolen valour but that's mostly it, at least for North America and Europe. [QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52373093]Well as much as people are going to balk due to it being called cultural appropriation, I think there's actually an argument to be made here from what the article is talking about. [I]Should[/I] you be able to throw the name 'Navajo' on whatever the fuck you want? Should indigenous races and tribes have a right to the designs and names they use, copyright style? On the one hand, it is kind of shitty to see some stereotypical if not racist, poorly thought out garbage get labeled 'NAVAJO CLOTHING' to make a buck, but on the other, it's completely fine to throw the stars and stripes on whatever you want too and call whatever you want 'American'.[/QUOTE] Creators life + 70 (or whatever it was) years is already batshit retardedly overpowered copyright. We don't need groups to be able to hold onto shit exclusively for thousands of years. In the case of the Indian cultures, I do get it that these cultures are often very limited/endangered. But the answer is more probably to promote them to reinvigorate them rather than granting some rich reservation dudes exclusive rights to lock it away. We've seen some indian languages return to usage, for example. Also the Navajo are not a culture in danger of extermination to my knowledge.

If it means I personally have the rights to demand everywhere else in the world to stop playing polka then they might convince me

I can't help but feel this is related to that incident where that Canadian taco restaurant had to close shop because a bunch of angry lefties deemed it was culturally appropriating Mexican culture.

[QUOTE=DiscoInferno;52373661]they can't ask to make it illegal. law was invented by the greeks so they're appropriating greek culture.[/QUOTE] Babylon, actually. That is, the first [I]known[/I] code of law. It's pretty damn naive to think someone as late as the Babylonians were the first to actually have laws. [editline]18th June 2017[/editline] Oh wait, I'm wrong. Sumerians. Modern day Iraq. [I]They[/I] have the first [I]known[/I] laws, and those are hardly the actually-first.

We keep going down this road. The west is fucked. How fucking retarded can people be to create divides like this over literally nothing?

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;52373847]We keep going down this road. The west is fucked. How fucking retarded can people be to create divides like this over literally nothing?[/QUOTE] And again, look who is the president of the United States and the status of GB in the EU. SJWs and radical left people are making their mark on history for sure, but are they in office and running the country? No.

Not even looking at strictly indigenous appropriation but, just appropriation in general, there are so many inventions and cultural nuances that developed over the course of history that you have to be a genius to actually track it down Should all music that derived from the Beatles, a british band, be regressed back into nothing? You can even trace tons of music today to Jazz, if you wanted to. You could even go even further. Jazz was largely played by African Americans, who culturally appropriated American culture. [I]Jazz is a cultural paradox.[/I] This isn't even that far into history too. That was a dumbed down version of how [URL="https://thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/01/music_timeline_genres.png"]complex [/URL]and [URL="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c5/17/40/c51740577f4a86911d48d8dbb6ed268c.jpg"]convoluted [/URL]this shit gets.

[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;52373889]And again, look who is the president of the United States and the status of GB in the EU. SJWs and radical left people are making their mark on history for sure, but are they in office and running the country? No.[/QUOTE] And why do you think that is? I'd say its because people were pushed that way by retarded fucking SJWs kicking and screaming about every little thing.

[QUOTE]"People at a national level don't know what's going on, and there aren't many processes where you can get information about this or contribute to the positions that are being taken here."[/QUOTE] Actually its not even a matter of not knowing its a matter of not caring and not mattering

This whole cultural appropriation shit is so fucking unfathomably stupid that it is hard to believe that this is some pseudo-issue today. I couldn't care less if somebody decided to use parts of my culture.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52373731]Cultural exchange and appropriation are dofferent things[/QUOTE] They're pretty much the same thing my dude, and are heavily related concepts. It's neither a good thing, or a bad thing. It's just the act of oen culture taking stuff from another. Which is how cultures work.

Imposing laws on how we use abstract concepts when there's pretty much no way that you can make them cause active harm is a surefire way to be seen as a giant cocksucker.

[QUOTE=CommanderPT;52373933]This whole cultural appropriation shit is so fucking unfathomably stupid that it is hard to believe that this is some pseudo-issue today. I couldn't care less if somebody decided to use parts of my culture.[/QUOTE] I think the idea isn't that you can't adapt the culture, but you shouldn't claim it's something you or your community came up with, which I don't have any ready examples of but it totally does happen. It's a bit like the "Free for any kind of use as long as you credit the author" license deal. [editline]18th June 2017[/editline] Or maybe it's what wikipedia article's first sentence says, and I am wrong [quote]Cultural appropriation is the adoption or use of the elements of one culture by members of another culture.[/quote] In which case okay I agree, complaining about that by default is pretty stupid.

[QUOTE=millan;52374045]but you shouldn't claim it's something you or your community came up with, which I don't have any ready examples of but it totally does happen. [/QUOTE] [citation needed] I mean, I know plagiarism is a thing, but that's more often than not individual works being claimed by individual people. Never heard of an entire culture or a major aspect of a culture actively receiving wrongful credit

This idea falls apart if you think about it for more than five seconds. To be just, the law would have to apply to every culture since every culture is a minority somewhere. You would have to put specific criteria on who exactly "represents" a culture, which coincidentally is what the nazis tried to achieve in their twisted world view. There's no way it would bring about anything besides cultural isolationism and conflict.

If the UN were to actualy try to enact this, the US should pull out, and Kick Out the UN from New York.

[QUOTE=Paramud;52373387]Aside from the phrase "non-consensual taking," this sounds entirely reasonable to me.[/QUOTE] It is a slippery slope once you start judging what people can and can't create based on their " Culture "

so, uh, does that mean Americans get kickbacks every time a Hollywood-made film gets broadcast or shown in another country? same thing with music, whose industry is almost single-handedly based out of the U.S.? nice, bring on down the cultural appropriation then [editline]18th June 2017[/editline] maybe we should start putting some sanctions on Japan, a country known specifically for glombing onto American cultural artifacts

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Hope non whites stop wearing TShirts and shorts and driving most cars. That's my culture you're taking

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52374353]Hope non whites stop wearing TShirts and shorts and driving most cars. That's my culture you're taking[/QUOTE] I sure hope the Ancient Greeks asked the Ancient Egyptians before copying their style of statues.

[editline]oh hamburgers[/editline] I misread the first post I was responding to, my mistake. [QUOTE=duckmaster;52374267]It is a slippery slope once you start judging what people can and can't create based on their " Culture "[/QUOTE] It's not saying that people can't create something because of their culture, it's saying that cultures are intellectual properties of themselves and shouldn't be illegitimately monetized.

Yes, we should sue everybody who stole the whole democracy idea from Greece.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52374353]Hope non whites stop wearing TShirts and shorts and driving most cars. That's my culture you're taking[/QUOTE] Don't be silly. White people don't have a culture. We only steal shit from others.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52374704]Don't be silly. White people don't have a culture. We only steal shit from others.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/e1gA89h.gif[/img] you might be on to something here

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52374704]Don't be silly. White people don't have a culture. We only steal shit from others.[/QUOTE] Cultural appropriation is our culture.

are they going to sue the whole Vegas and everyone in it because they appropriate their gambling culture?

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52374748][img]http://i.imgur.com/e1gA89h.gif[/img] you might be on to something here[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/OFLhyhe.png[/img] as are you buck-o

[QUOTE=Paramud;52374587]It's not saying that people can't create something because of their culture, it's saying that cultures are intellectual properties of themselves and shouldn't be illegitimately monetized.[/QUOTE] And that would open one HECK of a can of worms wouldn't it, just imagine how many people of various cultures are "culturally appropriating" right now, pretty much everyone on fucking Earth. Because that's how cultures work and that's how a culture evolves. [editline]edit[/editline] And this is coming from a Welshman, someone who's culture was almost stamped out by the English, "cultural appropriation" is the most ridiculous thing ever.

I can never take this whole "cultural appropriation" thing seriously. Some of my favorite western media would not be as good without cultural appropriation. Without appropriating Asian cultures we could not have Avatar: The Last Airbender or the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Samurai Jack or the Jackie Chan Adventures, which have all been an integral part of my childhood.