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[QUOTE=Tudd;52173182]It's called your average hip-hop cover on an album.[/QUOTE] lmao except it's not That's what racists think a typical hiphop album looks like. Young black guys on the cover with guns. Not surprised that Tudd thinks this tho

[QUOTE=Rubs10;52173169]They did a general depiction of hiphop and this is what they came up with. If someone was asked to depict a Mexican person and the depiction they come up with is a cartel member that's perpetuating a negative stereotype and racist[/QUOTE] This comparison isn't really apt because they're depicting gangsta rap, not being "asked to portray" a black person. If it were the latter it would be, obviously, racist.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52173216]This comparison isn't really apt because they're depicting gangsta rap, not being "asked to portray" a black person. If it were the latter it would be, obviously, racist.[/QUOTE] Gangsta rap themes come largely from the experiences of poorer black people. It has even fewer white artists than rap and hiphop in general. You can't separate the depiction of gangsta rap and race.

Misguided perhaps but I'm sorry, that picture's actually kinda funny.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;52173235]Hiphop music and artists have a lot to say about what it's like to be black and depicted as a criminal, especially if they're a hiphop artist. You can't separate the two ideas when it's the people making the music expressing those ideas through the music. Even Eminem talks about race a lot.[/QUOTE] Obviously, but that isn't really a response to what I said. Race and the black experience are recurrent themes throughout hip-hop, but that doesn't mean that these guys were "asked to portray a black person". The two are completely different, at least in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;52173245]Obviously, but that isn't really a response to what I said. Race and the black experience are recurrent themes throughout hip-hop, but that doesn't mean that these guys were "asked to portray a black person". The two are completely different, at least in my opinion.[/QUOTE] I changed my post because it wasnt really what I wanted to say.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;52173209]Young black guys on the cover with guns. [/QUOTE] [t]http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/top-20-golden-age-hip-hop-albums/u/745xauto/4485353/tumblr_m4w2rexkng1qzbwkjo1_1280.jpg[/t] [t]https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/atoms/article_atoms/www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/images/kill%2520at%2520will.jpg[/t] [t]https://img.discogs.com/ZldN4tWpCgruXyHv-bybF8mCqsE=/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-514158-1126207986.jpeg.jpg[/t] [t]https://images.rapgenius.com/8ba7de1f7c35cb8748261e1b9ccb2ae6.600x600x1.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.dubcnn.com/reviews/chronic/source_article/source.jpg[/t] Bro, it isn't racist to point out how prevalent this style pops up. You are the one making it racist by saying any portrayal of it automatically means young black criminals. For alot of these artists, it is a stylistic choice.

[QUOTE=Tudd;52173274][t]http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/top-20-golden-age-hip-hop-albums/u/745xauto/4485353/tumblr_m4w2rexkng1qzbwkjo1_1280.jpg[/t] [t]https://www.kcet.org/sites/kl/files/atoms/article_atoms/www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/images/kill%2520at%2520will.jpg[/t] [t]https://img.discogs.com/ZldN4tWpCgruXyHv-bybF8mCqsE=/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-514158-1126207986.jpeg.jpg[/t] [t]https://images.rapgenius.com/8ba7de1f7c35cb8748261e1b9ccb2ae6.600x600x1.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.dubcnn.com/reviews/chronic/source_article/source.jpg[/t] Bro, it isn't racist to point out how prevalent this style pops up. You are the one making it racist by saying any portrayal of it automatically means young black criminals. For alot of these artists, it is a stylistic choice.[/QUOTE] Are you arguing that the critique of this stylistic choice is entirely separated from a culture which denigrates black people writ large?

[QUOTE=Tudd;52173274] Bro, it isn't racist to point out how prevalent this style pops up. You are the one making it racist by saying any portrayal of it automatically means young black criminals. For alot of these artists, it is a stylistic choice.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm sure their thought processes included the prevelance of guns on all those gangsta rap albums they own Definitely wasn't "hmm rap? Oh I know! We'll all pretend to have guns because that's what black people must have on their hiphop albums!" they were trying to make a joke and communicate the fact that they're a rap group as part of the joke, and for whatever reason they thought they needed to include guns, which reinforces the stereotype that hiphop is associated with dangerous people. And since black people largely make and consume hiphop, it makes black people look dangerous. Arguments that they're depicting gangsta rap only work if anyone thought they were intentionally doing it, and didn't just think all rap was gansta rap

[QUOTE]Black activist shaun king[/QUOTE] :saxout: TIL Shaun King is black. Can we get a bit of fact checking going on? I'm fairly certain'I've been cheated there.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;52173314]Yeah I'm sure their thought processes included the prevelance of guns on all those gangsta rap albums they own Definitely wasn't "hmm rap? Oh I know! We'll all pretend to have guns because that's what black people must have on their hiphop albums!" they were trying to make a joke and communicate the fact that they're a rap group as part of the joke, and for whatever reason they thought they needed to include guns, which reinforces the stereotype that hiphop is associated with dangerous people. And since black people largely make and consume hiphop, it makes black people look dangerous. Arguments that they're depicting gangsta rap only work if anyone thought they were intentionally doing it, and didn't just think all rap was gansta rap[/QUOTE] Your argument consists of nothing more than armchair psychology attempting to psychoanalyse these people's deeper intentions.

Rubs, you realize black men are allowed to own guns without being considered criminals, right? Absolutely nothing in this parody picture indicates criminality. You're the one seeing it.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;52172937]Hip hop has never been race neutral, from an inside perspective or an outside one. The guns and association with gangs is inflammatory. Purposely ignoring the fact that hiphop is entirely associated with black people makes you look less intelligent[/QUOTE] not all hip hop fans/artists are black. [editline]2nd May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Rubs10;52173314]And since black people largely make and consume hiphop, it makes black people look dangerous.[/QUOTE] tell us more about your unique expertise.

black people are not the only people who dress/look like that. you've never walked through a city in your life if you think that. This is legit the first thread I've ever seen that I agree w/ tudd in