• Merry Christmas! FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
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[QUOTE=zerglingv2;52899212]It doesn't matter if they are dems or republicans, both of them don't give a single fuck about us.[/QUOTE] Tom Wheeler and the 2 democrats apparently did.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;52913357]Most of TN's reps are on the side of the Telecom companies against Title II.[/QUOTE] Probably because of the huge amount of money telecoms have pumped into your politics due to Chattanooga's muni fiber company getting so much attention.
I just emailed, is this enough or do I need to call? Im kinda awkward on the phone.
[QUOTE=Firetornado;52915722]I just emailed, is this enough or do I need to call? Im kinda awkward on the phone.[/QUOTE] Your cyber-waifu is depending on you for her survival! Just rip open your shirt and go through with that phone call!
If any of you guys have websites or blogs you can modify the code of, [URL="https://www.battleforthenet.com/"]this[/URL] site has pop-ups you can put up for anyone who enters. Already added one to mine. Spreading awareness is just as important as doing the action ourselves. But FYI, I've already emailed and signed petitions all over the place all night.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;52915335]BTW can you guys please critique this email?[/QUOTE] Not seeing any mention of you having few million dollars just lying around uselessly. Think you could weave that in, you know, subtly?
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;52913074]MotherBoard seems convinced the only way to stop them is to make our own internet. [url]https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7x4y8a/net-neutrality-fcc-community-networks[/url][/QUOTE] see, I read news like this and i'm like Hell Yeah This Is How Cyberpunk Happens, but i'm instantly reminded of how the Florida Power & Light electric company lobbied the hell out of florida state lawmakers to [URL="http://www.iflscience.com/policy/illegal-power-home-solar-panels-florida/"]effectively ban use of privately owned solar panels[/URL] wouldn't surprise me to see lobbyists attempting to pull these same stunts against decentralized internet. the future is going to suck hard if things don't change.
The fact that they passed this the day before Thanksgiving is absolutely disgusting. What can I do? This was probably one of the things I was most thankful for the Obama administration implementing and it [I]really pisses me off[/I] that our current administration is taking such a backwards approach to fucking everything. One step forward and sixteen back might as well be their fucking motto.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;52918201]The fact that they passed this the day before Thanksgiving is absolutely disgusting.[/QUOTE] Er, they haven't passed it [I]yet[/I], I don't think. Not until sometime in December. We've still got time to spread the word and get enough people pissed off about it.
[QUOTE=Mud;52914140]call me a coward all you want but theres literally nothing anyone can do we lost, this is pretty much the worst case. theres no way to prevent this. [editline]22nd November 2017[/editline] contacting your representatives is pointless, contacting and voting is pointless. There is pretty much nothing you or I can do because the fact of the matter is that we don't have anything to fight, we have lost the fight long ago. If you genuinely think anyone in congress cares about what you have to say then you have no idea, you know why amazon, google and companies like that arent protesting this? because this benefits them to, they can pay for the fast lanes and snuff out competition easily. No matter how you look at it, whether it be currying support from so called "pro internet" companies or convincing congressmen who have their pockets lined with big telecom dollars, there is literally no way to win because there is literally no fight to win. We lost long ago. Its genuinely a waste of energy at this point.[/QUOTE] Seeing things as a matter of "winning or losing" rather than a matter of improving our lives or trying to stop the erosion of that improvement whenever the chance arises is a problem. This isn't sports, it's a country with a few hundred million lives going on day to day. We don't "lose" and they don't "win" so much as progress is temporarily held back by idiots and restarted by people with conviction. This isn't a zero sum game, and apathy laced indifference is a poisonous attitude to carry. Naysayer, hammer the nail. We're all on our own, we can't decide what's true. Betrayer, hammer the nail, such narrow lines separate me and you. So sick of the sound of people giving up. You can't stop me giving a fuck. [editline]24th November 2017[/editline] BLEGH
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;52918201]The fact that they passed this the day before Thanksgiving is absolutely disgusting. What can I do? This was probably one of the things I was most thankful for the Obama administration implementing and it [I]really pisses me off[/I] that our current administration is taking such a backwards approach to fucking everything. [B]One step forward and sixteen back might as well be their fucking motto.[/B][/QUOTE] Even that's a bit inaccurate; "One step forward" implies that the Trump administration has actually attempted to implement new ideas in a constructive manner, as opposed to destructive tendencies to remove anything that the big bad [B][I][U]Black[/U][/I][/B] Democrat Obummer touched - [URL="https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-08-16/trump-removes-obamas-white-house-bikeshare-station"]even stuff that is so small as bike stations.[/URL] He can't even do something as basic as pardoning Turkeys without making Obama the butt of a joke: [media]https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/933035672780333057[/media]
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52918512]That's just a harmless joke imo Maybe I'm just used to everything he does being devastating.[/QUOTE] At some point it stops being a joke and some sort of creepy obsession
i did my part and called my representatives. one had a voice mailbox that was "full" (read: likely never emptied) and the other went through
The corporatist shoving as of late has gotten to such a level that I don't believe the average person will be ignorant and accepting of it much longer. Cynical as I want to be, you push a man too far and sooner or later he'll start pushing back.
I don't want to make a new thread but here is a guy who analyzed the comments on the FCC and most likeley 1.3 million of them are fake [url]https://medium.com/@jeffykao/more-than-a-million-pro-repeal-net-neutrality-comments-were-likely-faked-e9f0e3ed36a6[/url] [img]https://i.imgur.com/MrEuRAN.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Killuah;52918710]I don't want to make a new thread but here is a guy who analyzed the comments on the FCC and most likeley 1.3 million of them are fake [URL]https://medium.com/@jeffykao/more-than-a-million-pro-repeal-net-neutrality-comments-were-likely-faked-e9f0e3ed36a6[/URL] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/MrEuRAN.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] This is completely unbelievable bullshit. This alone should be grounds for sacking half of the FCC. [QUOTE][I]After taking a [/I][URL="https://pastebin.com/JGHy6tRu"][I]1000 comment random sample[/I][/URL][I] of the 800,000 organic comments and scanning through them, I was only able to find three comments that were clearly pro-repeal.[/I]¹⁶ That results in an estimate of the population mean at 99.7%. In fact, we are so near 100% pro net neutrality that the confidence interval goes outside of 100%.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I hope shit like this pushes some people towards lashing out against the government via whatever means they can (Second Amendment people, am I right?), it might actually make these corporatist asshats think twice before screwing over their constituents. Besides, the country would be better off if cancerous elements such as Ajit Pai or Betsy DeVos were removed from the equation.
Tune in december to witness the most powerful form of open communication in human history, get drawn and quartered into an engineered corporate racket. Hopefully now the US will serve as an object lesson and anti-net neutrality won't even be a word that is uttered in other countries.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;52919123]Hopefully now the US will serve as an object lesson[/QUOTE] I don't want to be that guy- but i'm gonna. The US is already an object lesson in how you don't manage pretty much any aspect of your nation. Seems to me there's barely a fucking thing you guys get right these days. [b]edit[/b] i realized i don't even know if you're american or not- if you aren't i apologize for assuming.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;52919123]Hopefully now the US will serve as an object lesson and anti-net neutrality won't even be a word that is uttered in other countries.[/QUOTE] On the contrary, I think it might inspire confidence among other mega-corporations who feel they could make an extra buck off the Internet to push for similar measures, now that the US has demonstrated that abolishing Net Neutrality is within the realm of practical possibilities. The US is far from the only place in the world where corporate interest weighs in heavily on politics. From what I've read the EU has directives that ask of membership nations to protect Net Neutrality in national laws, but doesn't have the mandate to enforce it strictly speaking?
[QUOTE=St33m;52919177]I don't want to be that guy- but i'm gonna. The US is already an object lesson in how you don't manage pretty much any aspect of your nation. Seems to me there's barely a fucking thing you guys get right these days. [b]edit[/b] i realized i don't even know if you're american or not- if you aren't i apologize for assuming.[/QUOTE] As a whole, the US isn't great at managing the nation. But there's some aspects that are handled fairly okay, ironically it's the ones that are supposed to be non-partisan though. (until this administration at least) I wonder if there's some correlation between political parties and shit not working. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Killuah;52918710]I don't want to make a new thread but here is a guy who analyzed the comments on the FCC and most likeley 1.3 million of them are fake [url]https://medium.com/@jeffykao/more-than-a-million-pro-repeal-net-neutrality-comments-were-likely-faked-e9f0e3ed36a6[/url] [img]https://i.imgur.com/MrEuRAN.png[/img][/QUOTE] this reads like when you have to meet the word count for an essay but youre running out of ideas so you just rehash the same line over and over
I like the "so-called experts" lines.
[QUOTE=SuperDany;52895688]Hey, I just wanted to inform everyone of a pretty easy way to contact your representatives. Someone wrote a bot, at the number '50409'. If you text it with the word "resist," it'll ask you for your name and your address. from there you'll be able to write a message to your representatives. I really advise everyone who cares about this issue to take 5 minutes and send a message. Anything helps. This bot essentially just faxes your message to your representatives. If you don't want to compose your own message use this one: [B] Edit: [/B]If you're looking for more information on the bot, check here: [B][URL]https://resistbot.io/index.html[/URL] [/B][/QUOTE] I'm probably going to look like a massive idiot for asking this, but the bot is asking who I want to contact: Congress, House, Senate, President, or Governor. Which one should I be selecting? I assume Congress? [editline]derp[/editline] Nevermind, figured it out
[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52918290]Even that's a bit inaccurate; "One step forward" implies that the Trump administration has actually attempted to implement new ideas in a constructive manner, as opposed to destructive tendencies to remove anything that the big bad [B][I][U]Black[/U][/I][/B] Democrat Obummer touched - [URL="https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-08-16/trump-removes-obamas-white-house-bikeshare-station"]even stuff that is so small as bike stations.[/URL] He can't even do something as basic as pardoning Turkeys without making Obama the butt of a joke: [media]https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/933035672780333057[/media][/QUOTE] The "one step forward" applies to everything Obama did. The sixteen steps are the Trump administrations bountiful attempts at making 'Merca Great Again! [editline]25th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Marcolade;52918252]Er, they haven't passed it [I]yet[/I], I don't think. Not until sometime in December. We've still got time to spread the word and get enough people pissed off about it.[/QUOTE] Ah, I thought they passed it on the 22nd for some reason. My bad. At least there's still some hope. I'm going to send out some emails at the very least. We need to generate as much backlash to this proposal as physically possible. The FCC is one government branch that needs to be shut down completely, honestly.
You know I just got to ask, Would you even want THIS administration to run Net Neutrality? The same Administration that tried to repeal Obamacare and is trying to reform taxes, you want to regulate the internet with Net Neutrality?
[QUOTE=Glaber;52923400]You know I just got to ask, Would you even want THIS administration to run Net Neutrality? The same Administration that tried to repeal Obamacare and is trying to reform taxes, you want to regulate the internet with Net Neutrality?[/QUOTE] I'd rather them just leave it the fuck alone cuz compared to what's coming shit's fine as it is
[QUOTE=Glaber;52923400]You know I just got to ask, Would you even want THIS administration to run Net Neutrality? The same Administration that tried to repeal Obamacare and is trying to reform taxes, you want to regulate the internet with Net Neutrality?[/QUOTE] Net neutrality isn't a government office, it's a concept, one that was protected in 2015 under Obama's FCC. Trump's FCC are trying to roll back those protections. The administration came into control as Ajit Pai was confirmed. Do you really think your concern trolling was going to cause people to go "oh wait Trump is a bit shit wtf i hate net neutrality now"?
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