Game Journo who got stuck on Cuphead's tutorial responds
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lmao the "gamergate elected trump" is the most hilariously inane bullshit
I can't wait for "gamergate traveled back in time and did the holocaust"
God damn, he must have a low IQ or had been extremely distracted. If you can't jump over something you get on something taller, you learn that while when you want cookies out of the top drawer irl, the fuck.
Good lord, 'fetishsizing skill'?
All I'm asking is for a game journalist to be able to play games on at least the easiest difficultly. No one, in the entire universe, is jerking their dick because they made a tutorial jump in a game. I know it's hard for a lot of people to take criticism and admit they need to improve, but making ludicrous excuses like this is awful.
Dean is replying to me on twitter...
He's such a shit journalist that in his defense of not being good at a game, he somehow brings up Gamergate and Trump.
If it's just a video game, you wouldn't get so defensive.
You'd think a journalist would at least have the reading comprehension ability to read the instructions [I]right in front of him[/I], regardless of his skill at games.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52663691]for [url=https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/09/videogame-culture-needs-to-stop-fetishizing-skill.html][B]Paste Magazine[/B][/url][/QUOTE]
you are what you eat i guess
I could see the logic behind having people of varying levels of skill play and review games, but this is ridiculous.
There's a difference between being an elitist prick and recognising whether someone can or can't actually play the fucking game.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;52663692]I dunno, I thought that too, but then I read an essay on this whole controversy written by George Weidman (super bunnyhop) and it convinced me that guy doesnt really deserve all the hate he gets. I would post it, but its a patreon exclusive and I dont what to be that guy.
Keep on mind, Dean Takahashi isnt some starbucks english major, he has been a gaming journalist for like 7+ years and has written some very good articles in the past.
Even Weidman admitted at the end on his essay that Dean had made some glaring factual mistakes in his summary of cuphead and he doesnt want to die on the hill of defending that guy, so :v:
(His shoehorning gamergate into this doesnt help his case either)[/QUOTE]
he actually made the post public: [URL]https://www.patreon.com/posts/14270750[/URL]
to summarize: he points out that games journalism is pretty much entirely conflated with reviews these days when not every journalist is necessarily a critic. you could be an amazing journalist with intricate knowledge on the financial dealings of every major company in the business and break major scoops on scandals or weird happenings without ever playing a video game in your life, and you would still be a great games journalist. the few reviews this guy has done are embarrassingly bad, but doing quick cheap easy-to-produce reviews for money is something many games journalists do at some point, george included. and then yeah, he ends it implying that dean probably isn't actually worth defending after all considering he wrote that the cuphead devs made super meat boy
This isn't even about gaming skill, lmao
It's about basic decision making and following instructions
Yeah, elitism in gaming exists on many levels. But not this one. This one's so far below those levels that it's probably chatting with Hades right now
It's like trying out a cooking recipe, fucking up because you lack any cooking skills and then saying the recipe is bad.
Why not get somebody who can actually play a platformer to a meaningful degree where they could actually clear a level?
ngl but this level of ineptitude borders on tangible motor skills impairment, idk how you're meant to review games if you literally can't even do basic physical inputs on a controller
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;52663691]There's been a couple of journalists with articles who have come to defend him. From Dante Douglas, for [url=https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/09/videogame-culture-needs-to-stop-fetishizing-skill.html]Paste Magazine[/url]
:what:[/QUOTE]
Imagine doing this with other things.
1: "I see that you've failed your driving test several times. Maybe driving isn't for you, not everyone is goo-"
2: "You're just fetishizing the skills of the F1 drivers. Not everyone has to be that skilled at driving!"
1: "No, no. I'm just saying that if you're not good at driving, maybe you should sto-"
2: "It's just driving, just get over it!"
[QUOTE=TheHydra;52664918]he ends it implying that dean probably isn't actually worth defending after all considering he wrote that the cuphead devs made super meat boy[/QUOTE]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/KfwNqNn.png[/img]
That's not implied, not even close.
[QUOTE=NostalgicBird;52663728]Seriously, how the hell does Trump have anything to do with this?[/QUOTE]
Donald Trump caused him to be bad at video games
FYI its Bernies fault that you can't see this!!!
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;52664606]lmao the "gamergate elected trump" is the most hilariously inane bullshit
I can't wait for "gamergate traveled back in time and did the holocaust"[/QUOTE]
Hitler: the original gator.
I personally would never trust a review unless I saw the writer's gameplay footage, and their actual footage not just a demo reel. This guy is an example why.
[QUOTE=psychofox67;52664480]Is this guy secretly DSP?[/QUOTE]
That would imply DSP actually has a job.
Dean touts it as an achievement that he writes 30 articles per week, granted, it does take some effort to shit out article after article, what he forgets to mention is that he basically regurgitates press releases.
I did a count of his 50 latest articles.
40 are articles that talk about how well a company is doing or what new product they have coming out (be it games or electronics.)
10 articles are either reviews, interviews or articles that feature him talking with someone.
I just find it a bit bullshit that he makes himself out to be a great game / tech journalist, when in reality he is more of a delegator of press releases.
He also said he was the only person they were able to send to Gamescom. Why would you send a guy that is terrible at videogames to a conference that is there to show you the latest game content?
Anyone can do a half decent interview with a PR person, they do the talking for you anyway, being competent at video games and analyzing what is good and what is bad is not something they will tell you.
I wonder why they chose Dean to go, knowing that.
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;52663703]Let's be clear. You don't have to be really good at video games to be a journalist. You just have to understand the fundamentals of them which the guy clearly doesn't. Games journalists suck balls in general. You can tell he's the type of guy who just plays the games as a job and wasn't into games before he had to write about them. There's probably a lot that are like that.[/QUOTE]
Wrong.
Dead Fucking Wrong.
Contrary to [del]game journalists[/del] english majors that took any job they could get, this isn't politics and this isn't the movies.[B] Games [U]require[/U] interactions and context, period.[/B] Even the ones you just choose what to read. This guy isn't butthurt that #gamergate unleashed pepe the frog onto his wife and decapitated her in the street, he's butthurt that #gamergate pointed out things like virtually every published review of Total War II didn't even finish the tutorial, aka they did not touch the game at all before giving it a score which directly affects how much revenue potential it has, with the pics of the steam data to back it up.
Games Journalism is a joke, a literal actual joke, and not a particularly funny one.
I could wax paragraphical for two pages on why and how, but I don't have to. The fact that livestreaming has [I]already[/I] replaced site reviews and will only continue to for the most part is really all that need be noted. Political witch hunting and polarization requires effort and maintaining a narrative, and soon as fatigue for that narrative sets in, a lot of the people who got where they are now because whom they knew and what cards they flashed at the door will be out of jobs.
Games require direct interaction and interaction of particular kind that the developer cannot help but instill and intend, that's what a [B]game[/B] is.
Period.
It's not that he sucks at the game, it's that he's a fucking retard who can't follow instructions.
He kept trying the same thing over and over and over again. It's like when your parents make you give the controller to your 6 year old cousin so he can play and he just walks straight into the corner the whole time.
They released this video as some sort of early coverage of it. The Polygon Doom video got shit just as this one did. Its not informational if its not standard gameplay. Imagine a "26 minutes of Call of Duty Gameplay" video, where the player sits afk for the duration. The title isn't wrong but it still doesn't represent the game well.
[QUOTE=27X;52665152]Wrong.
Dead Fucking Wrong.
Contrary to [del]game journalists[/del] english majors that took any job they could get, this isn't politics and this isn't the movies.[B] Games [U]require[/U] interactions and context, period.[/B] Even the ones you just choose what to read. This guy isn't butthurt that #gamergate unleashed pepe the frog onto his wife and decapitated her in the street, he's butthurt that #gamergate pointed out things like virtually every published review of Total War II didn't even finish the tutorial, aka they did not touch the game at all before giving it a score which directly affects how much revenue potential it has, with the pics of the steam data to back it up.
Games Journalism is a joke, a literal actual joke, and not a particularly funny one.
I could wax paragraphical for two pages on why and how, but I don't have to. The fact that livestreaming has [I]already[/I] replaced site reviews and will only continue to for the most part is really all that need be noted. Political witch hunting and polarization requires effort and maintaining a narrative, and soon as fatigue for that narrative sets in, a lot of the people who got where they are now because whom they knew and what cards they flashed at the door will be out of jobs.
Games require direct interaction and interaction of particular kind that the developer cannot help but instill and intend, that's what a [B]game[/B] is.
Period.[/QUOTE]
Jesus, dude, calm your tits. All he said is you don't have to be [I]really[/I] good at games to review them, which is perfectly fair. I guess it depends a bit on where you set the bar for "really good", but this is an unwarranted reaction
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52665240]Jesus, dude, calm your tits. All he said is you don't have to be [I]really[/I] good at games to review them, which is perfectly fair. I guess it depends a bit on where you set the bar for "really good", but this is an unwarranted reaction[/QUOTE]
If you're gonna do a thorough review of a game (Which every reviewer SHOULD), you better be fairly skilled in the genre(s) it has roots in, otherwise you're just scraping the surface of what it has to offer.
So he's a bit of an ass formulating himself, but he's still 100% right.
[QUOTE=Van-man;52665295]If you're gonna do a thorough review of a game (Which every reviewer SHOULD), you better be fairly skilled in the genre(s) it has roots in, otherwise you're just scraping the surface of what it has to offer.
So he's a bit of an ass formulating himself, but he's still 100% right.[/QUOTE]
Again, it depends on where you set the bar for "really good"
There's a lot of guys from, say, Vinesauce that I don't think are "really good" at certain genres, but still good enough to review them if they wanted to
His defense revolving around "skill" and being "elitist" just makes no sense. No one is saying that you have to be perfect at every game. The problem here is that [I]he struggles to reach the basic level of even being able to play the game[/I].
If he had tried to do this and failed on the first few tries but quickly figured out what he should be doing (because it tells you right there) that wouldn't be an issue. Trying the same thing 10+ times and hoping at some point that it'll suddenly work before trying combinations of random things, when the game outright explains what you should do and it's not even supposed to be a challenge, is just absurd.
The W40K thing is just as bad, if not worse. The whole article revolves around him doing absolutely no research into the subject because apparently saying "It's my opinion!" means checking that his article makes even a basic level of sense isn't needed. He complains that the game seems to copy Gears of War in terms of looks, was told beforehand by the developer how W40K came before gears of war but doesn't seem to make the connection between that and being outright wrong, decides to even use that to suggest it [I]might [/I]really be the opposite of what the whole point of his article is and then still goes ahead with his article claiming it's copied Gears of War. So he makes a baseless assumption, is told he's wrong when he asked, makes that claim in an article anyway and mentions he was told he's wrong in the article when that should have been a pretty good indication that he's incorrect, then when everyone else says he's wrong he says he doesn't need to do research as he's a "professional" and it's his "opinion".
Not playing Cuphead perfectly isn't the problem here. What appears to be lacking any sense of basic actual professionalism, competency and common sense seems to be more of the problem.
This is exactly the incompetent, defensive, childish, petty, arrogant bullshit we've come to expect from games journalists
I once read a review saying he might've just been stressed playing this for a crowd. And I get that. We all have moments of nervousness, and game journalists are human too.
However, games journalists have long ago lost the benefit of the doubt. If someone called me out for having incredibly incompetent skills, you know what I would do? Post a video of me playing another game, and playing it well. I wouldn't insult the people calling me out, and I definitely wouldn't use my friends to back me up and make a bad situation worse.
This motherfucker basically said "If you think im bad at my job you support Trump" and still has a fucking job lmao
[QUOTE=Jimmyshimmy;52665711]This motherfucker basically said "If you think im bad at my job you support Trump" and still has a fucking job lmao[/QUOTE]
the worst part about it is that people will defend him
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